This guy's BA was .09 a few minutes after he landed when CHP swarmed his hangar. Don't think his "I had a sip of whiskey after I landed" defense is gonna hold water...

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20 ... ?p=1&tc=pg

Gump

Yea, but flying at only 50 feet, his BA level should be allowed to be the same as a auto driver shouldn't it??

I heard of a pilot who had nothing to drink during a big flood, parallel the interstate (510 feet away from the road) do about a mile or two of Mexican water skiing while passing traffic.

patrol guy wrote:I heard of a pilot who had nothing to drink during a big flood, parallel the interstate (510 feet away from the road) do about a mile or two of Mexican water skiing while passing traffic.

Do we know that pilot?

Our Idaho Governor used " it was the scotch in my snoose" and that worked.

Just remember, 8 inches from bottle to throtle...eerrrr
Something like that.
Dave

Pleads not guilty.....

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20 ... /120229809

Gump

I must admit, I'm a little confused by this whole discussion. I know the law ( in Canada anyway) is 8 hours bottle to throttle, but I've never heard about an acceptable blood alcchohol limit - is it really .04? Don't know if there is a published amount in Canada ? And also - first offense is $1000? Seems light to me.

Garth

When the reg was written 0.04 was the lowest "legally certified" detectable level available, thus t
he 0.04 level.

I'm fine w/the 1 "airplane unit" fine, but WHY did the cops "swarm his hangar"? Did he cross the centerline when he landed? Was he swerving to stay lined up w/the runway?

If the cops were that organized, I'd guess someone called from his departure place.
'Tis a better outcome than it could have been.

patrol guy wrote:Yea, but flying at only 50 feet, his BA level should be allowed to be the same as a auto driver shouldn't it??

I heard of a pilot who had nothing to drink during a big flood, parallel the interstate (510 feet away from the road) do about a mile or two of Mexican water skiing while passing traffic.

That would be great fun! (510 feet away of course) My tricycle gear prohibits me from mexican water sports

gear wrote:I must admit, I'm a little confused by this whole discussion. I know the law ( in Canada anyway) is 8 hours bottle to throttle, but I've never heard about an acceptable blood alcchohol limit - is it really .04? Don't know if there is a published amount in Canada ? And also - first offense is $1000? Seems light to me.

Garth

The FAA regulations actually offer THREE criteria for alcohol:

§ 91.17 Alcohol or drugs.

(a) No person may act or attempt to act as a crewmember of a civil aircraft—

(1) Within 8 hours after the consumption of any alcoholic beverage;

(2) While under the influence of alcohol;

(3) While using any drug that affects the person's faculties in any way contrary to safety; or

(4) While having an alcohol concentration of 0.04 or greater in a blood or breath specimen. Alcohol concentration means grams of alcohol per deciliter of blood or grams of alcohol per 210 liters of breath.

So, at least technically, you could be simply hung over and violate this regulation, under #2 "While under the influence of alcohol".

MTV

.04 is the limit for Commercial Motor Vehicle drivers, too. (just an FYI)

mtv wrote:
The FAA regulations actually offer THREE criteria for alcohol:

§ 91.17 Alcohol or drugs.

(a) No person may act or attempt to act as a crewmember of a civil aircraft—

(1) Within 8 hours after the consumption of any alcoholic beverage;

(2) While under the influence of alcohol;

(3) While using any drug that affects the person's faculties in any way contrary to safety; or

(4) While having an alcohol concentration of 0.04 or greater in a blood or breath specimen. Alcohol concentration means grams of alcohol per deciliter of blood or grams of alcohol per 210 liters of breath.

So, at least technically, you could be simply hung over and violate this regulation, under #2 "While under the influence of alcohol".

MTV

For ATC the FAA has rules for when you can return to work after taking various drugs. There is a range given for some reason, for example a given drug may be 24-36 hours after last use is when you can go back to working traffic. The normal procedure is you tell your supervisor what drugs you'll be on and he will call the medical folks and get your answer. Just recently the FAA went to the longest time period for any given drug and sometimes it's pretty funny. For example I recently went to the dentist for a filling and used the laughing gas. That's 24 hours. The funniest is if you take Nyquil. You can't work for 60 hours after last use.