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DVD Review: Big Rocks and Long Props Vol 1

[imgwrap=left]https://www.backcountrypilot.org/i/screenshots/brlp.cover.jpg[/imgwrap]DVD Review:
Big Rocks and Long Props Vol. 1 (2005 GSM Machine&Tool)

Running time: 47 minutes + extras
Price: $29.95 + shipping



In seemingly divine response to my flying video prayers, I have the privilege of writing yet another review of a bush flying DVD. I guess I can't complain anymore about not having some good rainy day Lazy Boy flying inspiration, as I have now added Big Rocks and Long Props Vol 1 to my collection. While the DVD was actually released several months ago, and many of you have already bought your copies on faith alone(for some, the sight of bushwheels is all it takes...I'll take it!!), without benefit of a review, I'm sure there are a few of you out there who need an extra push to take the plunge. Please continue reading.

[imgwrap=left]https://www.backcountrypilot.org/i/screenshots/brlp.pilots.jpg[/imgwrap]Greg Miller and Loni Habersetzer are both Pacific Northwest pilots who, after years of honing their craft, decided that the world needed to witness just how slow a light airplane can fly and just how short it can land. That demonstration could be accomplished at any safe asphalt-surface airport though, and if one was going to need such short takeoff and landing performance, it would likely not be on such a pristine surface, but rather some really short river bars that are made up of rocks the size of basketballs and located deep within a heavily wooded canyon. Yes, now we're talking about something that is worthy of being committed to video, and that is exactly the premise of Big Rocks and Long Props Volume 1: 2 guys with very specialized airplanes doing exactly what a bush flying enthusiast wants to see an airplane do.

[imgwrap=right]https://www.backcountrypilot.org/i/screenshots/brlp.scenic.jpg[/imgwrap]I feel like there is kind of a commonly held belief that real bush flying only occurs in Alaska, due to the necessity of airplanes to get to the great hunting and fishing locations. But what about the Lower 48? In my opinion, the Pacific Northwest offers some of the most beautiful flying locations in the world, and of course everybody loves Idaho. The lush, overgrown, greenery of western Oregon and Washington terrain are particularly close to my heart though, and for that reason I really fell in love with the scenery in this video right away. I'm not sure exactly what river(s) the flying took place on, and Greg and Loni will probably remain tight-lipped about that detail to avoid any attention from interest groups who don't understand just how light a footprint a tiny airplane leaves behind. The Alaskan Bushwheels Greg and Loni run are huge, lightly inflated, and give way to any obstacle up to the size of a Toyota Prius. There are a few slow motion shots that show the wheels rolling over ENORMOUS rocks, and banks that look like motocross jumps, and neither the rock nor the airplane seem to care. What a great promo for bushwheels!

[imgwrap=left]https://www.backcountrypilot.org/i/screenshots/brlp.bigrocks.jpg[/imgwrap]The video gets down to business pretty quickly. Loni introduces himself and Greg, then they take off from a really nice grass strip(in about 200 feet) and head out to do some "rock crawling." The format of the movie, with the exception of the beginning, is pretty much all landings and takeoffs at different locations. In fact this how the chapters are defined, with each chapter corresponding to a different location, with names like Rock Creek, Petrified, Washout, Shorty, and Paradise, etc. I don't think you'll find any of these names on a map, as they're pet names given by the guys to to very short, rough sections of marginally flat(not necessarily smooth) ground in river canyons that no sane person would identify with a landing strip. That's the genius of this video though -- The shock value. At first viewing, a pilot familiar with what standard sized airplane tires are capable of rolling over, simply cannot believe what he is seeing. That, combined with a slew of techniques I've only read about in books on bush flying legends, make for a rather sensational demonstration of superior piloting, especially the ground handling on rough surfaces. If ever there was an argument for the tailwheel aircraft, this is it. Power up, stick forward to lift the tail, differential braking to bring it around. This is hard enough on asphalt or grass, but try it on a minefield of head-sized rocks and logs. It's almost painful to watch the poor little tailwheel get thrashed about, but a nosewheel aircraft would last approx 3 seconds on this kind of surface before either getting stuck or having a propstrike.

[imgwrap=right]https://www.backcountrypilot.org/i/screenshots/brlp.rockcreek.jpg[/imgwrap]I promised Greg that I would try to avoid adjectives like "crazy", "insane", or "circus clown" but it's getting tough. The margin for error in what these crazed clowns are doing is very, very slim. The opportunity to lose a $100,000 aircraft looms around every corner of the river. To their credit though, they are very on the their game, with many years of this type of flying under their belts. They are equipped with adequately powered aircraft, huge tires, an intimate understanding of the flight envelope of their airplanes, and a lot of recon information about the landing sites. Greg comments that he never lands one of these sites the first time, given the extremely dynamic nature of the river bar topography. A site that he's landed many times before may have been completely reshaped by the river and therefore require a different approach or technique. A bloopers section is included in the extras, but I was kinda disappointed. The bloopers are pretty much limited to a little submarining during a water ski-to-land attempt(successful) and some rough rollouts on a few landings. They are nothing serious, no damage to aircraft or pilot, just a little extra pucker factor that only a pilot who knows how easy it is to nose-over a taildragger or drag a wingtip would pick up on. I'm not sure what I was expecting, as I certainly don't want to see carnage, so I'm glad the blooper reel was short and uneventful. The scene to the right is a landing made by Loni at Rock Creek that made me have to dig the couch cushion out of my Levis...I can't speak for his seat cushion. Greg later explains in the video that there is a pretty solid lip in the transition from water to bar that changes with water level. The lower the river, the more extreme the bank, and the more exciting the rollout. These guys are crazy. Sorry Greg.

[imgwrap=left]https://www.backcountrypilot.org/i/screenshots/brlp.cockpit.jpg[/imgwrap][imgwrap=right]https://www.backcountrypilot.org/i/screenshots/brlp.paradise.jpg[/imgwrap]I have to give credit to the directors for utilizing multiple shots and angles. Landing after landing and takeoff after takeoff can get a little tedious after a while, no matter how extraordinary it is, so they mix it up a little with some great in-cockpit footage, and even some picture-in-picture action like the shot to the left. They give you both the in-cockpit and a strip-level view of the landing. Some of the landings are even captured during an overhead fly-by, which really makes for a great perspective.

The topic of flying low down a river has been discussed on this site from a safety point of view, but there is no denying the sheer exhilaration one gets from following these canyons below tree level. For most of us, that thrill should remain relegated to watching this video, as the dangers of such operations are obvious. Besides, I'm sure Greg or Loni could land on a pile of sticks if they did encounter an engine problem. They're just damn good pilots and they know what they're doing. I had a brief daydream about landing my C170 on one of these river bars, but it ended in me removing the wings and shelling out a few grand for air-crane service. If a guy did have an engine failure in harsh terrain, and all that was available was a rockpile in the middle of a river canyon, you now know that it's possible to survive, though your glory will only be recorded in your mind unless you're packing a video camera.

While some other videos are careful to avoid any kind of dialog that may be considered instructional, Big Rocks and Long Props does this to just the right extent. Greg narrates the entire video with the exception of the intro, and it's a nice touch. It's not overtly instructional, merely an explanation of the technique that works for him, as well as some words of caution. If you get sick of his voice, you can simply turn the commentary off and fire up Ride of the Valkyries by Wagner(from the chopper scene in Apocalyse Now in case that whistled through your hair.)

[imgwrap=right]https://www.backcountrypilot.org/i/screenshots/brlp.waterskiing.jpg[/imgwrap]A note about the aircraft: Loni flies a 160 HP PA-18 with extended gear, and Greg flies an experimental Maule with a whole bunch of trick parts he fabricated himself. The whole time I was watching, I was hoping for more information about his airplane, and low and behold, the extras have a short section of him describing his modifications.

I am eagerly awaiting Volume 2 of Big Rocks and Long Props. Greg alludes to the fact that the next installment will be shot with higher quality cameras, but that is not to say the cameras he used were poor quality. In fact, I was really impressed with the sharpness of the video and quality of the editing. But, I won't complain if the next one is even better.

While Big Rocks and Long Props is definitely a jaw dropper for pilots, I have to issue the same warning that I did with Idaho Exposed: Your non-pilot friends will either fall asleep or be fidgeting with restlessness while you force them to watch. I showed my entire family the video after Christmas Eve dinner, and actually all of the men, most of whom were not pilots, really stayed glued. The women however, quickly moved on to other things(like the dishes :wink: ...I'm gonna get slapped for that one.)

Big Rocks and Long Props runs 47 minutes plus extras, and can be purchased for $29.95 plus shipping from http://www.bigrockslongprops.com.
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Zane,

Just wanted to say thank you for the great review (IMHO). I was not expecting such a detailed one but pleasantly surprised. There are a lot of people to thank for getting the word out on our DVD and without guys like you I know our DVD would not be doing as well.

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Comment on the first photo: either the guys aren't very tall, or the planes are! :P Minor nit: they always seem to plow right thru the fishing hole. :lol:
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I have studied this DVD at least four viewings a week for two months now and I see something new every time. I have watched once from start to finish focusing on only elevator inputs, once only on rudder inputs, once on listening (turn commentary off) to power changes on short final, etc. I have learned a lot from these guys and put it to use in my own little flying environment. I called Lonnie a few days ago about going to take his course in the spring and can't wait. It's always fun to fly with someone who is dialed in.
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Re: DVD Review: Big Rocks and Long Props Vol 1

I wrote this review 10 years ago! It's funny to re-read it and cringe at my overly-enthusiastic tone. I was pretty stoked. Not much has changed.
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Did you polish their shoes after you wrote the review.... lol
So very cute looking back 10 years.
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Baloo wrote:Did you polish their shoes after you wrote the review.... lol
So very cute looking back 10 years.


Heh... maybe. Like I said, we were all stoked to get bush flying DVDs back then!
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Re: DVD Review: Big Rocks and Long Props Vol 1

Zane,
That is what keeps this 'hobby' interesting! A guy has got to stay excited, otherwise it is just another meaningless past time. I probably get as excited as much going flying now as I did nearly 30 years ago when I took my first lessons.
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I bought it about 8 years ago and loved it.
Had friends over to watch it many times.
It does keep you psyched.
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Zzz

Went back and read it also - did not cringe a bit.
Now I gotta go dig it up since I recently moved and am still unpacking.
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Zzz, I was just ribbing you a bit... It is also one of my favorite videos. Those guys are incredible.
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This (first one) has always been my fav.
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It's a shame they are still only selling it on DVD. I'd like to see it, but I don't have a DVD player. I'm surprised in this day and age that they don't have it available for download.
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Hard to believe you don't have a DVD player. I'm a caveman, but even I've had one for years. Google says that Walmart offers at least three different models for less than $35.
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I have 3 DVD players by way of the Mac Minis I use for my entertainment center computers. They are so seldom used I wouldn't miss them, except for maybe to watch BRLP1.

Greg should look into adding his content to the iTunes Store, though I know it's a major pain in the ass because of how's it's done.
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hotrod180 wrote:Hard to believe you don't have a DVD player. I'm a caveman, but even I've had one for years. Google says that Walmart offers at least three different models for less than $35.


I last had one about 9 years ago when I was stationed away from home, but with today's technology it would just collect dust. I can download just about anything I want to watch (that isn't already on Netflix), stick it on a thumb drive and plug it in to the back of my TV. I think that DVD is rapidly going the way of VHS.
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We can watch it on my antique thingie when you get here this spring.
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It is sure crazy how time speeds up as you get older. I can not believe it has been 10 years and in that time how much tech has changed. I thank all of you who bought the dvd. Even though it was a low budget production many say it was the best of all the dvd's out.

I have looked into the I Tunes download and it really was not worth the effort, as I remember they take 50% and require a bunch of hoops to be jumped. I guess if you don't have a DVD player you are just out of luck.

Thanks for the great review Zane
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Of course the concern with digital downloads is piracy/redistribution, but you might stimulate some more sales by just hosting your own digital download in your store.
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