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mtv wrote:Tim,

It's sorta like your underwear at this age--depends.... :D


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Good one Mike! :lol: :lol: Sorry Tim! I had to laugh at that one.

Another fun story if you all don't mind (whatever, I'm going to tell you anyway. Don't read if you don't want to hear my BS :D ).

Back in my Motocross days driving one of the rigs all of us truckers seemed to end up at the same grocery store for shopping for cooler supplies for the team. This one driver Brian was a huge joker kind of guy (and really good with pranks! Too damn good! Trust me..... I know! :oops: ). Myself, Brian and one of our older drivers on the circuit, Bob was shopping at the local grocery store one day and Brian was up in front of the store waiting in line to check out. Well, Bob (the older guy) rounds the corner of one of the aisle half way across the store. Brian yells out to Bob (the older guy)..... "Hey Bob, The depends you were looking for are down this aisle here!!!". Poor ole Bob! His face turned super bright red :oops: :oops: since this was during the rush hour at the grocery store with about 6-8 full lines for the check out stands and everybody looking back at Bob. I'm sure Bob got even with Brian sooner or later. :lol:

Anyway....... that's it!
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58Skylane wrote:
mtv wrote:Tim,

It's sorta like your underwear at this age--depends.... :D


MTV


Good one Mike! :lol: :lol: Sorry Tim! I had to laugh at that one.

Another fun story if you all don't mind (whatever, I'm going to tell you anyway. Don't read if you don't want to hear my BS :D ).

Back in my Motocross days driving one of the rigs all of us truckers seemed to end up at the same grocery store for shopping for cooler supplies for the team. This one driver Brian was a huge joker kind of guy (and really good with pranks! Too damn good! Trust me..... I know! :oops: ). Myself, Brian and one of our older drivers on the circuit, Bob was shopping at the local grocery store one day and Brian was up in front of the store waiting in line to check out. Well, Bob (the older guy) rounds the corner of one of the aisle half way across the store. Brian yells out to Bob (the older guy)..... "Hey Bob, The depends you were looking for are down this aisle here!!!". Poor ole Bob! His face turned super bright red :oops: :oops: since this was during the rush hour at the grocery store with about 6-8 full lines for the check out stands and everybody looking back at Bob. I'm sure Bob got even with Brian sooner or later. :lol:

Anyway....... that's it!

I should report this post.

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aktahoe1 wrote:Isn't there somewhere with the feds that say once you think that you understand them they change the rules?

This is very old. I saved it from a job I had 15 years ago.

Please note the revisions handed down on the "NEW" FAR Part 91.

91.27(a) No pilot, or pilots, or person or persons acting on the direction, suggestion, or supervision of the pilot or pilots, may try, or attempt to try to comprehend or understand any or all, in whole or in part of the herein mentioned Federal Aviation Regulations, except as authorized by the Administrator, or an agent appointed by or inspected by the Administrator

91.27(b) If the pilot, or group of associate pilots become aware of, or realize, or detect, or discover, or find that he or she or they have been, or are beginning to understand the Federal Aviation Regulations, he/she/they must immediately, or within three (3) days, notify, in writing, the Administrator, including therein all pertinent details of the incident or accident.

91.27(c) Upon receipt of the above mentioned notice of impending comprehension, the administrator will immediately rewrite the regulations in such a manner as to eliminate any further comprehension hazards and restore the normal state of profound confusion and absurdity.

91.27(d) The Administrator may, at his discretion, require the offending pilot, or pilots, or person, or persons, to attend remedial instructions in the Federal Aviation Regulations, until such time as the pilot, or pilots, or person, or persons, are too confused and bewildered to be capable of understanding anything at all.
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Does any one know about the National Aero Space Administration GA accident database? Does it work? I heard you fill out a general description of the incident/accident and doing so gives immunity to actions by FAA against the offending pilot such as suspension or revocation of flying privileges, within certain limits of course. There might be a time limit to report and of course before FAA involvement. It was supposedly developed by NASA so that they can develop an accurate data base on GA accidents, otherwise no one would report anything out of fear of repercussions by the FAA. I can't imagine that could happen.

In other stories I have heard and retell here, there was once an old crop duster who described certain situations where incidents might easily be mistaken for accidents by the untrained eye, except that the structural part of the damage was obtained during the recovery phase of removing the aircraft from the incident site. A chain broke or something and the aircraft was dropped. He said it happened more than once over the years. His recollections may or may not be accurate, you know how stories are.

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dirtstrip wrote:Does any one know about the National Aero Space Administration GA accident database? Does it work? I heard you fill out a general description of the incident/accident and doing so gives immunity to actions by FAA against the offending pilot such as suspension or revocation of flying privileges, within certain limits of course. There might be a time limit to report and of course before FAA involvement. It was supposedly developed by NASA so that they can develop an accurate data base on GA accidents, otherwise no one would report anything out of fear of repercussions by the FAA. I can't imagine that could happen.

In other stories I have heard and retell here, there was once an old crop duster who described certain situations where incidents might easily be mistaken for accidents by the untrained eye, except that the structural part of the damage was obtained during the recovery phase of removing the aircraft from the incident site. A chain broke or something and the aircraft was dropped. He said it happened more than once over the years. His recollections may or may not be accurate, you know how stories are.

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Here's the NASA ASRS web link: http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/

Reports must be filed within ten days of an incident and for "forgiveness" the incident must have been "inadvertent". It's a good program and interesting to read their reports: Callback.

As to damage during recovery, the regulations clearly state that in the event of an accident you may not MOVE the wreck until the NTSB or FAA give you permission to.

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One note, the NASA report provides protection from fines and/or certificate action, NOT the violation. Any violations will remain a part of your pilot records. That being said, I always file NASA reports every time when I even think that there was a potential violation.
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hicountry wrote:What happens if you ball it up IN the hangar? :oops:

Close the door and shut up! :^o :roll:
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