Is there an STC for the Fli-Lite 4000s for the 206? If so who holds it? Does anyone have a copy of the STC I can use for the Data?

There is an STC for those skis on a 206. Since the company is no longer in existence, you'll likely have to find a set with the STC paperwork.

Wipaire currently has a set of these skis for sale, that were on a 185. They may have STC paper....maybe. I THINK (been wrong before) that Wip bought the Fli-Lite product line. Anyway, it'd be worth a phone call to chat with them about it.

Some others that I'm aware of that had these mounted on 206: Hudson Air out of Talkeetna on a TU-206, phone: (907) 390-0158. Arctic Air out of Fairbanks on a U-206, I believe. Sandy Hamilton owner: 907-322-0749 , and a fur buyer named Joe Mattie in Fairbanks on his 206. Joe is owner of Alaska Raw Fur: (907) 479 2462.

One of those folks MAY be able to help you.

One of the issues with these skis, however, is that the STC limits the gross weight of the airplane when on these skis to 3350 pounds. I dont know if any one has figured a way around this, other than just doing it.....but.

Good luck,

MTV

Thank you. MTV

I was wondering why the reduced gross weight with the skis? Floatation? Break the skis? Thanks for any info.

Skydive206 wrote:I was wondering why the reduced gross weight with the skis? Floatation? Break the skis? Thanks for any info.

Most of the 206 models are only certified to 3300kbs on skis per the TCDS right from the factory. So at 3350 they actually got a 50lb increase.

So far from what I can tell. The Fli-Lite 4000s were part of Cessna's 206 equipment list. No STC required. Wipaire does not support any parts for them but has all the drawings etc. Wipaire has a STC to use the 3450A hand pump with the Fli Lites. I wont have these on this season but we will see about next winter. I am looking for, or a copy of Cessnas 206 floatplane, Ski plane POH Supplement.

Skydive206 wrote:So far from what I can tell. The Fli-Lite 4000s were part of Cessna's 206 equipment list. No STC required. Wipaire does not support any parts for them but has all the drawings etc. Wipaire has a STC to use the 3450A hand pump with the Fli Lites. I wont have these on this season but we will see about next winter. I am looking for, or a copy of Cessnas 206 floatplane, Ski plane POH Supplement.

I just looked at a copy of a U-206 F and a U-206 G POH that I have. Both contain the seaplane supplement, but no ski plane supplement....and none is listed in the index of supplements......interesting, because there has to be one.

Only reference I could find in a quick look was a reference in the weight and balance section that just says “for skis, use actual weight”.

Also, in looking at the TCDS for the 206, there is weight and balance reference for wheels, skis and floats for the 206 A through F, but on the G model, wt and balance reference only for wheels, floats and amphibious floats.....no mention of skis. And, in the “stuff that applies to all models”. There’s no mention of skis.

MTV

A friend of mine flew with Ray Arnold from Cascade Id back in the 80's. I am pretty sure he had a 206 with skis back then.

This is what I found out about Cessna 206s and the Fluidyne 4000 Hyd wheel skis. They were originally certified on 206s through F model. 3300# weight limit. My Flint Tip Tanks increase the GW to 3800# Wheels, Floats, and Skis. Floats and Skis had a additional POH Supplement from Cessna through the F model. The G model, Cessna removed all the info from the TCD and POH (Now called AFM) that covered Skis. My 206 is a G model and I already bought the skis. So I need Approved Data. Field Approval is my best option. Wipare has all the paperwork and drawings for these skis. They were kind enough to help me. They got Field approvals on a couple H model 206s back in 2000. Wipare has an STC to use the Electro Hydraulic Pump, Selector, hand pump from the hydraulic system for the Amphibs and I have the 3450 amphibs so I just had to T into the hydraulic system for the Main skis. Nose Ski uses 1 side of the float hyd system. Got the fuselage fittings from Atlee Dodge. Filled out the Field approval checklist, etc, etc. Airframe Manual Supplement needed to be approved by the ACO. This process started taking too much time. I finally found a DER thats approved to review AFMS and got past that hurdle. Now my paperwork is finally done...... Now lets see if there is any snow left.

Skydive206 wrote:This is what I found out about Cessna 206s and the Fluidyne 4000 Hyd wheel skis. They were originally certified on 206s through F model. 3300# weight limit. My Flint Tip Tanks increase the GW to 3800# Wheels, Floats, and Skis. Floats and Skis had a additional POH Supplement from Cessna through the F model. The G model, Cessna removed all the info from the TCD and POH (Now called AFM) that covered Skis. My 206 is a G model and I already bought the skis. So I need Approved Data. Field Approval is my best option. Wipare has all the paperwork and drawings for these skis. They were kind enough to help me. They got Field approvals on a couple H model 206s back in 2000. Wipare has an STC to use the Electro Hydraulic Pump, Selector, hand pump from the hydraulic system for the Amphibs and I have the 3450 amphibs so I just had to T into the hydraulic system for the Main skis. Nose Ski uses 1 side of the float hyd system. Got the fuselage fittings from Atlee Dodge. Filled out the Field approval checklist, etc, etc. Airframe Manual Supplement needed to be approved by the ACO. This process started taking too much time. I finally found a DER thats approved to review AFMS and got past that hurdle. Now my paperwork is finally done...... Now lets see if there is any snow left.

We are a lot safer now, though......

Those are great skis, in any case. The GW limit is ugly. I flew a 206 on Fluidyne main skis, but someone decided that using a fixed penetration ski was "better" on the nose. Don't EVER believe one of those idiots. Took me forever to get the thing unstuck and airborne the first (and only) time it was on snow.

MTV