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Sat May 10, 2008 9:47 am

plastic gas containers

have used heavy duty plastic containers for years..square type
as you can sit right on wing and then go about your business.
have carried 18 cans in supercub on gas runs when out at bear camp.

have never had problem with them as to static, but use care as to
clothing and what have you. Did try surplus bags that were from
europe somewhere, worked but hard to fill and mogas eats them up. Do wish someone would make some sort of collapsible bags that were easy to fill and then didn't take up so much room?

There's a project for someone out there!! I know alot guys up here that would buy-em......

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Sat May 10, 2008 10:37 am

Every time I see a new, cool gas tank, I look it up online and they say it can't be sold in or shipped to CA...very, very strange. :?: :?:

Anyway, it's obvious that my old red five gallon plastic cans are far from cutting edge. Might have to go over the hill and buy some contraband gas cans in the wilds of Nevada...

Thanks for all the input...this is a gold mine.
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Sat May 10, 2008 3:32 pm

calif. ban on cans ?

Hey Hammer........I'll send you as many cans you want,


just let me know! So why do they ban the plastic gas cans?

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Sun May 11, 2008 12:24 pm

Glaciercub,
Thanks for the gas can support...unfortunately the postage between AK and the L48 is rather daunting!

So why do they ban the plastic gas cans?


They don't ban plastic gas cans in CA, they just seem to ban any can which won't leak, plastic or metal, including the Jerry cans. Perhaps they are simply banning any can that might be used to fuel a motor vehicle, regulating the canned gas reserve to lawn mowers, weed eaters, backyard vegetable juicers, etc..
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Sun May 11, 2008 1:52 pm

Re: Gas cans in the plane

Hammer wrote:I'm interested if any of you carry gas cans in your plane, and if anyone has found a particularly good brand or type of can.

I'm not crazy about the idea, but with some of the trips I want to make I don't have a lot of choice. I understand the dangers of static electricity and plastic gas cans...I also believe that with a properly constructed closed syphon system, the risk of fire is well within acceptable limits.

What I'm really interested in is finding a can which won't leak, and which is less likely to burst in the event of a hard landing. If it's static resistant of can be bonded to the plane, so much the better, but that's not my primary concern.


I carry the Scepter mil-spec fuel cans in the belly pod of my Super Cub when on extended trips through remote areas. They meet your criteria for not bursting. Because of this, they are the only ones approved by the military for ferrying gasoline in the air (see links). They also do not leak while laid sideways.

Good luck trying to find them however. They are illegal to sell in California and several other states (not CARB compliant since they don't leak), and from my understanding will be banned for sale in the entire U.S. by the EPA in Jan 2009. For that reason, Scepter has ceased civilian sales in the U.S.


http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com/scepter/

http://www.equipt1.com/h/component/option,com_virtuemart/page,shop.browse/category_id,21/Itemid,31/

http://www.survivalmonkey.com/portable_fuel_storage.htm
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Sun May 11, 2008 5:10 pm

Re: Gas cans

M6RV6 wrote:A64pilot, Maule will carry a drum easy, make sure you cut a sheet of 3/4 plywood big enough to hold it and make double damn sure you have it strapped forward as tight as you can! use a couple of rachet straps!!. Will really make a bad day out of a good one if it moves back very far!! :oops: You can make a channel out of alum. to fit over the bottom of the door so you won't tear it up when yu take the barrel out.(make sure your feet are out of the way when it hits the ground :idea:

Thanks, I thought it would, couldn't see any reason it shouldn't.
I think though if I really have a need to ferry fuel, I'll just borrow one from work "Thrush" That way I could carry it 500 gl. at a time :)
I think though if I were lucky enough to own a cabin in the boonies, the 55 gl drum makes the most sense. They are leakproof, pumps are made to fit them etc. I can't see any reason why they would be different from any other cargo in flight. Shouldn't be very hard to secure I wouldn't think.
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Sun May 11, 2008 5:20 pm

Re: Gas cans

a64pilot wrote:the 55 gl drum makes the most sense.


They're a pain in the ass in a smash your fingers sort of way. They always leak, and there's never anyone around to help load or unload the damn things.

Not that I'd ever admit it to a Fed or my chief pilot, but I have had one or two come loose while in flight and start rolling around the back. Makes for some VERY smooth flying and greaser landings.

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Sun May 11, 2008 6:17 pm

gas cans

I was at the show in AK. and saw some new portable tanks, :idea: looked pretty good!
http://www.turtlepac.com/
From a history of hauling fuel, fish,rafts,antlers, and machinery parts, anything solid needs to be tyed down really well or it will make life difficult! :-({|=
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Sun May 11, 2008 6:40 pm

fuel tanks

I like Honda outboard motor tanks, they hold 7 gals, lay flat, have a vent or can be sealed up tight, can be rigged with a hose and pump real easy and two of them just fill the bottom of the back seat area.

Down fall is that they are sort of heavy and difficult to pour out of.
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Sun May 11, 2008 9:46 pm

tanks.......

Hammer, as for the postage goes, have retirie bennines on airfreight if you near major long stretch of concrete.

I wonder if we can get tanks Christina was talking about?

I have never seen them that I can recall.... I want a dozen

will have to do some checking?

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Sun May 11, 2008 10:07 pm

Jerry can

The last thread was WAAAYYY long and had some good info.

The only can certified by Transport Canada is found here:

http://www.sceptermilitary.com/fuel_containers/
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Mon May 12, 2008 4:16 am

Hi All, In Alaska I see people carry gas in 5 gal. wal-mart gas cans all the time, not such a good idea, but done all the time.
We used to have blatter tanks in the passenger compartment of UH1-H's for long range ops, but the transfer pumps weren't reliable and caused mission aborts.
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