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Cary,

McCarran was exactly like that back in the 60s when I went in there with Press Maxwell. He had a nice Commanche then, but we weren't big guys. They called the big bag of M&Ms desert survival food.

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maules.com wrote:Remembering the good days.
Land at an airport with two or three fbo's and as I taxied off the runway had to make a serious decision.
Three golf carts came driving t'wards me each adorned and driven by a beauty in a bikini and a real 'come hither' smile and welcome.
Chevron, Philips, Exxon, which to choose. It was akin to a bathing beauty contest out on the ramp.
Having made one's choice, you climb out of your trusty Maule onto an adeptly unrolled Red carpet.
Fuel was less than $2, the lounge like a palace with pilot sleep areas, near new courtesy car and all amenities.
The heyday of general aviation, 1978, and no, I'm not dreaming, I'm remembering.
Thousands of light piston craft built and sold each year, now, less than 1000, total.
So, competetive marketing at its best,


Doesn't look like your neck of the woods, but Bay Minette in LA (lower Alabama) is a pretty good stop. I have no idea what the fuel prices are. What I do know is that fueling in the outfits their line girls wear can't be safe.

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Here's that FBO's website: http://www.bayminetteaviation.com/
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ExperimentalAviator wrote:Here's that FBO's website: http://www.bayminetteaviation.com/


Each of the girls there has their own bio on the website... hehehe :shock:
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Bay Minette! Memories!

And great cookies!
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CamTom12 wrote:Bay Minette! Memories!

And great cookies!
They had cookies?
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Yeah, inside. Not sure who made them but I enjoyed them. Last time I was through there it was after hours though. Maybe they set those out for the late customers.
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Hailey Id., for having such a big high dollar customer base, at least judging by all the fancy private jets you see there routinely, has done a great job of still being good to the little guy. I told the story before but here goes: about 12 years ago a buddy who owned a snowboard shop and I flew to Hailey from Pocatello, an hour at most flight, 2Hrs+ drive. We had to tie the snowboards outsides on the lift struts, no big deal, but when we rolled up the line guys came out and treated us like movie stars, a little red carpet and everything =D> Sure it was absurd, and we were all laughing.....but bottom line is we got in and out real slick with no BS.

Just this summer I flew in, parked at the GA side, and walked around and got on a commercial flight to Seattle (DIRECT to SeaTac, can't do that from Poky, they want to send you to SLC first, screw that). I don't remember if I was charged any ramp fee, probably not, or else I would have remembered. Coming back I even got a ride over to the GA gate. It was weird to take off in that big plane and see mine tied up on the ramp, like driving off somewhere with your dog tied up, ain't right.
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Guys, I won't defend the "bend me over" prices on trumped up redundant fees at some of the big airports, but please consider why small airports are disappearing: ...they don't bring in enough money to survive. If they all offer all services for free, they will all be sold to developers.
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nobody here expects free services... I don't mind paying as much as 12-15 a night if I had to but 25 a night with a 32.50 "handling fee" is just a bit much... but its what is... I"ll plan my flights accordingly....
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Sun Valley actually isn't bad. It's Atlantic, but landing is free, parking is free, and overnight is only $12/night, and 100LL is only $5.90 a gallon. I say "only" because every other towered airport is $5.xx around here, it's not a rip-off if it gets you free overnight and a brand new courtesy car if you ask me.

Can't speak for the others.

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hotrod180 wrote:What bugs me in this situation is that you have to pay a private enterprise those inflated tie-down and handling fees, on a public airport! IMHO there should be a DIY transient tiedown area on all publicly funded airports, for 5 or maybe 10 ten bucks a night max.


Exactly. I'll pay if I need the services, but it's rare. The resort airports are the worst--Sun Valley, Eagle, Jackson Hole. Even if you top off and work out an accommodation of some kind, you're still paying a premium for the privilege of parking at a publicly-owned and maintained airport.

There are anti-discrimination provisions in FAA grants that are supposed to prohibit grant recipients from discriminating against different kinds of aircraft and operations. Usually, it's the big boys or specialty commercial operations like skydiving and gliders who pull these out. But how is it that grant recipient airports can eliminate public transient parking and force everyone to pay the ridiculous prices at Atlantic, Signature and the like?

San Jose International used to have reasonable access. Now, they've been so successful in driving out small aircraft that they removed the short runway (29) and are busy building out a huge hangar complex for the ultra rich. McClellan Palomar used to have a half dozen spots near the terminal where you could tie down and go to Lego Land. I'm not sure if those are there any more, but there's absolutely no reason why every public airport shouldn't have similar access. They don't even have to provide ropes if it's too much bother.

It's no big deal if there's a small airport nearby, but a lot of these places don't have competition. If nothing else, you can flame the outrageous operators on Airnav. The current reviews at PSP are all glowing. Let them know how you feel about the rectal exam.

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