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Highway Landing

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joshuajayg wrote:
Glidergeek wrote:Yes creative truth stretching :wink: had a friend that had stopped on the side of the freeway in an 18 wheeler to take a pee (cool the tires) CHP stopped and asked, "Whatca doing?" His reply was, "When you gotta go you gotta go" CHP's reply was, "Here's your ticket". All he had to say was something like, I thought I heard a tire blow up or something like that.


A trucker really can't stop to pee on the side of the road in California? Sad day.


Hell, he probably needed a bunch of expensive permits for discharging wastewater.
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Re: Highway Landing

22504. (a) Upon any highway in unincorporated areas no person shall
stop, park, or leave standing any vehicle, whether attended or
unattended, upon the roadway when it is practicable to stop, park, or
leave the vehicle off such portion of the highway, but in every
event an unobstructed width of the highway opposite a standing
vehicle shall be left for the free passage of other vehicles and a
clear view of the stopped vehicle shall be available from a distance
of 200 feet in each direction upon the highway. This section shall
not apply upon a highway where the roadway is bounded by adjacent
curbs.

The book(s) keeps getting thicker just like the FAR/AIM book. #-o

This one too, 21200.5 Riding a bicycle while under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or both.
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Glidergeek wrote:Ok I found the Kalifornia law, I'm screwed :lol:

Lawful Flight; Flight Within Airport Approach Zone - PUC
21403. (a) Flight in aircraft over the land and waters of this state is lawful, unless at altitudes below those prescribed by federal authority, or unless conducted so as to be imminently dangerous to persons or property lawfully on the land or water beneath. The landing of an aircraft on the land or waters of another, without his or her consent, is unlawful except in the case of a forced landing or pursuant to Section 21662.1. The owner, lessee, or operator of the aircraft is liable, as provided by law, for damages caused by a forced landing.
(b) The landing, takeoff, or taxiing of an aircraft on a public freeway, highway, road, or street is unlawful except in the following cases:
(1) A forced landing.
(2) A landing during a natural disaster or other public emergency if the landing has received prior approval from the public agency having primary jurisdiction over traffic upon the freeway, highway, road, or street.
(3) When the landing, takeoff, or taxiing has received prior approval from the public agency having primary jurisdiction over traffic upon the freeway, highway, road or street.
The prosecution bears the burden of proving that none of the exceptions apply to the act which is alleged to be unlawful.
(c) The right of flight in aircraft includes the right of safe access to public airports, which includes the right of flight within the zone of approach of any public airport without restriction or hazard. The zone of approach of an airport shall conform to the specifications of Part 77 of the Federal Aviation Regulations of the Federal Aviation Administration, Department of Transportation.


What law is this from? State, County, City?
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joshuajayg wrote:
Glidergeek wrote:Ok I found the Kalifornia law, I'm screwed :lol:

Lawful Flight; Flight Within Airport Approach Zone - PUC
21403. (a) Flight in aircraft over the land and waters of this state is lawful, unless at altitudes below those prescribed by federal authority, or unless conducted so as to be imminently dangerous to persons or property lawfully on the land or water beneath. The landing of an aircraft on the land or waters of another, without his or her consent, is unlawful except in the case of a forced landing or pursuant to Section 21662.1. The owner, lessee, or operator of the aircraft is liable, as provided by law, for damages caused by a forced landing.
(b) The landing, takeoff, or taxiing of an aircraft on a public freeway, highway, road, or street is unlawful except in the following cases:
(1) A forced landing.
(2) A landing during a natural disaster or other public emergency if the landing has received prior approval from the public agency having primary jurisdiction over traffic upon the freeway, highway, road, or street.

(3) When the landing, takeoff, or taxiing has received prior approval from the public agency having primary jurisdiction over traffic upon the freeway, highway, road or street.
The prosecution bears the burden of proving that none of the exceptions apply to the act which is alleged to be unlawful.
(c) The right of flight in aircraft includes the right of safe access to public airports, which includes the right of flight within the zone of approach of any public airport without restriction or hazard. The zone of approach of an airport shall conform to the specifications of Part 77 of the Federal Aviation Regulations of the Federal Aviation Administration, Department of Transportation.


What law is this from? State, County, City?


I didn't even know this existed till this morning #-o
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/planning/aeron ... autics.pdf
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Glidergeek wrote:I didn't even know this existed till this morning #-o
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/planning/aeron ... autics.pdf


This document defines "authorized personnel" as "... any person who has a valid airport identification card issued by the airport operator or has a valid airline identification card recognized by the airport
operator, or any person not in possession of an airport or airline identification card who is being
escorted for legitimate purposes by a person with an airport or airline identification card."

Does that mean pilots are not authorized personnel, and can be charged with trespassing (pg. 10)? Kalifornia is indeed a stranger place than I thought...here, "authorized personnel" generally means anyone with a pulse, or who at least knows someone else with one.
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Not sure if this has been posted before:

From sometime in 2006. The link here: http://www2.ljworld.com/photos/2006/aug/5/

A 1940s Cessna 120 is escorted down Interstate 80 by personnel from the Wyoming Department of Transportation, Wyoming Highway Patrol and Albany County Sheriff's Office. The plane received the escort Friday from the summit east of Laramie, Wyo., to the Laramie airport after its pilot had to make an emergency landing due to lack of power from high altitude. Neither pilot Nick Robles, 19, of Denair, Calif., nor his passenger, Rami Andrawes, 26, of New Zealand, was injured.Image
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I wonder why he didn't take off on the highway? Maybe either the popos wouldn't let him or he watched that video we saw earlier of that tricycle pealing his wing tip off on the fire truck.
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Given the average terrain elevation east of Laramie of 8200 to 9000 MSL and a typical summer tempature of around 25 to 32 degrees C, the density altitude may have been a major factor. Assuming 8200 MSL and an OAT of 28 degrees the density altitude works out to about 11,500. Wyoming HP usually wants the highway cleared ASAP, so a cleared section of highway and the plane flown off would usually be preferred to a slow taxi for miles to the Laramie airport.
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58Skylane wrote:Not sure if this has been posted before:

From sometime in 2006. The link here: http://www2.ljworld.com/photos/2006/aug/5/

A 1940s Cessna 120 is escorted down Interstate 80 by personnel from the Wyoming Department of Transportation, Wyoming Highway Patrol and Albany County Sheriff's Office. The plane received the escort Friday from the summit east of Laramie, Wyo., to the Laramie airport after its pilot had to make an emergency landing due to lack of power from high altitude. Neither pilot Nick Robles, 19, of Denair, Calif., nor his passenger, Rami Andrawes, 26, of New Zealand, was injured.Image


Ha, at least 6 cars in the escort? Looks like the OJ chase.
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When the cop shows up say "high oil temp-low oil pressure caused this landing" Add a quart of oil and pronounce it good to go.
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