Backcountry Pilot • How tiny is the CH701 really?

How tiny is the CH701 really?

Sometimes the most fun way to get into the backcountry, Part 103 Ultralights and Light Sport Aircraft have their own considerations.
8 postsPage 1 of 1

How tiny is the CH701 really?

CH701's are rare where I live, so before I go see and maybe try one, I'd like to know if it's worth it at all...

How small is the cabin really? I've seen pictures of people inside it, and sometimes it almost looks as if they are squatting! Their knees are high up over the panel, and it doesn't always look as if the stick can move freely around? And as far as I can tell, there's no adjusting the position, except for maybe adding padding to the seat.

I'm 6' on the dot, and 185lbs and thankfully there's more shoulders than ass, but I'm not a very big guy. Is there any CH701 drivers out there who can say if I'd feel like a canned herring or not? The option is the Savannah S, wich I have tried and like very much, but are a little bit pricier. I have no serious mission other than fart around in the afternoons and camp at some nearby fields and strips, and I don't need to get anywhere in a hurry.
Varanger offline
User avatar
Posts: 137
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:46 am
Location: Molde

Re: How tiny is the CH701 really?

I've only sat in this one briefly. I'm 6'2" and heavier than you.
Image
I wouldn't find it cramped but I'm a kayaker, think a C152 is plenty big and I'm building a Kitfox. I originally didn't like the center Y stick, but getting in and out sure is easier than the dual sticks in my Kitfox.

If you're worried it is too small then consider the CH750.

If you're considering knock offs like the Savannah then you might also look at the Spectr-Aero SP-30 (no affiliation, I just see them on Barnstormer's)
aftCG offline
User avatar
Posts: 360
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:55 pm
Location: Tacoma
Aircraft: Kitfox series 5

Re: How tiny is the CH701 really?

That's encouraging to hear. I'm not quite used to the Y-stick either, but it makes getting in and out a lot easier yes. My knee was busted up for a long time, and manhandling my leg to get it around the stick in the S-6 I flew then hurts like hell.

That's also one of the freshest CH701's I've seen!
Varanger offline
User avatar
Posts: 137
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:46 am
Location: Molde

Re: How tiny is the CH701 really?

I've sat in one but not flown one. I'm 6'4" and 200. The cabin width interior feels like a 152, but the bubble doors add width outside the fuselage width and make it feel much wider. The seats are close together (shoulders touching for two adult males). I had to bend my knees and splay out my legs to the work the pedals, which interfered with the center stick. Not ideal for me.
jcadwell offline
Supporter
Posts: 305
Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:21 pm
Location: Richland, WA

Re: How tiny is the CH701 really?

I really like the Y stick. I found it very natural-feeling, and allows you to fly with your right hand from the left seat and have nothing between your legs or obstructing the panel.
Zzz offline
Janitorial Staff
User avatar
Posts: 2854
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:09 pm
Location: northern
Aircraft: Swiveling desk chair
Half a century spent proving “it is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

Re: How tiny is the CH701 really?

My cousin built a 601, the low wing. We had a lot of trouble with the subaru engine, prop, and reduction. I flew it up to Mexico to talk to those guys. Sebastian let me fly all the various models and different engines. Funny thing, he wouldn't go with me so I was solo and light. The main thing I dislike about the really light airplanes is the seats lean back like a glider. Kitfox is like that as well. I use cushions and am short so I can take some of that out, but it is not comfortable (feel right). The 701 is a good short field airplane. Side stick is easier to get used to than throttle in wrong hand, as with Luscombe. Front seat in Cobra is side stick.
contactflying offline
Posts: 4972
Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:36 pm
Location: Aurora, Missouri 2H2
Download my free "https://tinyurl.com/Safe-Maneuvering" e-book.

Re: How tiny is the CH701 really?

This is a relative question. YMMV.

I am privileged to get lots of air time in a 701 with a friend and neighbour. He's an instructor and I have also done a fair bit of PIC stick time.

I am 6'2" and lean, with broad shoulders. He is a touch shorter with similar build.

They are TINY and very uncomfortable for me, coming from 172 / 140 / Bearhawk flying for the last 17 years. My headset is constantly touching the skylight or structural tubing. We are constantly rubbing shoulders and elbows. The seats do not adjust, and my feet are constantly amongst the rudder pedals. If I need to stretch - which I regularly wish I could, I cannot in the 701. But I can easily get my feet flat on the firewall, between the pedals just from trying to stretch. I get a sore backside after 40 minutes guaranteed, sometimes less. We do some long flights and the ride home can be excruciating by the end. That said, he will sometimes happily do 9 hour flights (with fuel / rest breaks), on his own, and he does not seem to mind.

I much prefer the stick between my legs - I like to rest my arm on my leg so it's steady, especially with light controls in the Bearhawk. I find the Y control very heavy and it floats in thin air, with no fixed arm rest to brace off.


I recently saw an 801 and that is a much better proposition - I want to say it's a "real aeroplane" but that seems unkind to the 701... But there, I've said it. :oops:

If you are honestly 6' or less, I think you will love the 701.
Battson offline
Knowledge Base Author
User avatar
Posts: 1810
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 11:19 pm
Location: New Zealand
Aircraft: Bearhawk 4-place
IO-540 260hp

Re: How tiny is the CH701 really?

Sounds like it's worth going to have a look at a CH701. Some of the interiors of it looks kinda like someone glued a sleeping mat to a park bench, but there are solutions that doesn't look half bad either.

It might make it a little bit less manouvreable on the ground, but I thought that maybe a solution for a little more comfort would be to put the brakes on the the stick, and skip the toe brakes. It'd allow you to move your feet around just a little bit more.
Varanger offline
User avatar
Posts: 137
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:46 am
Location: Molde

DISPLAY OPTIONS

8 postsPage 1 of 1

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

Latest Features

Latest Knowledge Base