Hello 182 flyers . I am looking for a part that I am having a hard time finding. I am in need of the flat panel that sits under the vertical stabilizer between the 209 and 230 bulk head shown in the photo with the access holes in it. Mine has cracks where the 2 main bolts hold it to the 209 bulk head and the tell me it must be replaced not repaired. I own a 1958 182 A model skylane. I would like NOS but used may be my only option. The part # is 0712206 and appears to have been superseded to 0712206-0 Please any help finding the part or advise if you have seen this before would be much appreciated.
Thanks

You could try McFarlane or Beegles in Greeley. They have quite an inventory.

MW

Thanks I will give that a shot

I have a tail cone in my shop attic removed to replace for a tail wheel conversion.. will have to check if that plate is good..

Brian

Thank you

I have a full tail section with hockey sticks in the hangar. I will take a look at it in the morning in case no one else comes through.

Thanks VT180 for looking for a part for me. Much appreciated. PM you contact info

Here are some pictures of the one I have... Noticed that a Cable wore a slot out of it towards the front, Not sure if your mechanic will want it due to that..








Brian.

Thanks so much for digging out the tail cone. I just went to the airport to verify part and mine is different. I only have one inspection hole. My jack screws are on the other side of the bulk head. I will attach pictures tomorrow.
Once again thank you.

I know of not a single 180, 182, 185 with jack screws on the other side of the forward bulkhead… 0712206 is the same part number through 1962… the one I have is out of a 1960 C model 182… there is a bulkhead that is normally just aft of the jack screws that has been removed from mine already, that may be what you are referring to..

Brian

ZBDRACE wrote:Thanks so much for digging out the tail cone. I just went to the airport to verify part and mine is different. I only have one inspection hole. My jack screws are on the other side of the bulk head. I will attach pictures tomorrow.
Once again thank you.

Not being a smart ass, but if your jackscrews are on the other side of the bulkhead then your plane is one of a kind. Every other 180/182/185 has the jackscrews on the same side as the one Brian posted.

Thanks for the response. My explanation was some what lacking but here are the facts. The mounting plate that is between the 209 and 230
bulk head that sits horizontally under the vert stab is the part I am looking for and was referring to in previous post. In the parts manual they list it as a (bulkhead assembly -tail cone). My jack screws are below this plate and do not rise above that plate thru access hole like the one you sent a picture of. My tail actually has a upper and lower plate I will attach photo's to help clarify. The parts manual does not show a tail section like mine I'm not sure why. In the pictures you can see the cracks I am dealing with. I am being told this plate must be replaced not repaired. Any advise or ideas would be much appreciated. I hope this clarifies the parts I am looking for.
Thanks

ZBDRACE wrote:Thanks for the response. My explanation was some what lacking but here are the facts. The mounting plate that is between the 209 and 230
bulk head that sits horizontally under the vert stab is the part I am looking for and was referring to in previous post. In the parts manual they list it as a (bulkhead assembly -tail cone). My jack screws are below this plate and do not rise above that plate thru access hole like the one you sent a picture of. My tail actually has a upper and lower plate I will attach photo's to help clarify. The parts manual does not show a tail section like mine I'm not sure why. In the pictures you can see the cracks I am dealing with. I am being told this plate must be replaced not repaired. Any advise or ideas would be much appreciated. I hope this clarifies the parts I am looking for.
Thanks

So is the Crack in the green part in the top picture? That's part of the horizontal stab, not the tailcone. If the Crack is in the piece shown in the bottom picture, picture taken from below and rear, then that is the part Brian referenced. If it's in the top part, then you need to look for that part number in the horizontal stab part of the parts manual, not the tailcone.

Go here... https://freeaircraftmanuals.wordpress.com/cessna/

Click on Cessna 180 & 182 Parts Manual 1953-1962.

Look up Figure 11 on Page 28... Study that and see if your broken piece is on that drawing.

Then check Figure 36 pm Page 86... This is the TAILCONE drawing... Make sure your broken piece is the one you think it is...

Keep in mind that the stabilizer (figure 11) sits on TOP of the Tailcone (figure 36)

Brian.

Here is a view thru the tail cone. I circled the bolts where the cracks are.

ZBDRACE wrote:Here is a view thru the tail cone. I circled the bolts where the cracks are.

That is the piece that Brian is trying to sell you. The jackscrews are going through it on each side of the bolts you circled in the picture. I circled the jackscrews in the picture below. That's where they go through and attach to the bottom of the horizontal stab.

Got it. I had to go look at the plane again to see that there where 2 plates. Thanks for all the input and advise.

Just make one, or fab a repair on the one you have. It will cost you around $3 in aluminum and a couple hours of work, if you stop for a beer and lunch.

Don't make a mountain out of this mole hill...

Question for Aeropod or any other qualified individual that will chime in :Aeropod made a comment about a repair and being a couple hour job. I am all ears, If this was your repair how would you tackle it? I am being told that the horizontal and vertical stabs need to be removed and the new plate riveted in. Do you see an easier way to resolve this fix. I am not a A&P and I would be very interested in any ideas on how to repair this crack with out removing the tail. Any advise would be much appreciated. Its repairs like this that make me want a experimental aircraft.


Thanks again Dan

ZBDRACE wrote:Question for Aeropod or any other qualified individual that will chime in :Aeropod made a comment about a repair and being a couple hour job. I am all ears, If this was your repair how would you tackle it? I am being told that the horizontal and vertical stabs need to be removed and the new plate riveted in. Do you see an easier way to resolve this fix. I am not a A&P and I would be very interested in any ideas on how to repair this crack with out removing the tail. Any advise would be much appreciated. Its repairs like this that make me want a experimental aircraft.


Thanks again Dan

Unfortunately, there is NO way to repair that without removing the tail section... However, that only takes about an hour or so to do... The vertical and rudder can be removed together, the elevators removed from the stab and the stab separately.. Once you are in there you can do a more thorough check of the attachment brackets, trim screws etc in accordance with the tail AD and Cessna service bulletin. And since it will be off I would recommend buying and installing new rear bushings (F Atlee Dodge) and possibly go though the jack screws also. Its a good time to do that maintenance with that kind of access.

Brian.