some short ski videos from ski flying around the north of Maine last weekend!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZzJlKvB7s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcwWRoHQbZU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfMUiFmg7U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvh4iLtuCbE

www.birddogsbynoyes.com

here are a few short ski flying videos with the SuperDog II up here in the north of Maine last weekend! I also posted these in the ski flying section


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZzJlKvB7s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcwWRoHQbZU

keep doggin'

steve

misterL19 wrote:On the SuperDog II,
it uses the elevator mounted trim tab, this way all the cockpit controls remain unchanged.
this was to keep away from the issues with the "flying" horizontal stab Jack Screws (expensive and run away problems)

So it looks like a 180 tail, but without the 180 trim? I would think the 180 trim (jack screw) would be the whole reason for the 180 looking tail on it.
What are the advantages of the square tail mod?

Hi WesternColorado,
There is a lot of history to go thru to give you the complete answer, but first we need to start back with the C-170, not many people know that Cessna certified a single C-170 "C" model, and yes you guessed it, the difference was a square tail! With the birddog (L-19) or O-1A,B,D,E,F,G it used the old elliptical tail (round tail)... notice that I did not mention the O-1C.. this is because Cessna made a new model based on a birddog, gave it even more power (265hp) and yes, a square tail too(hi aspect ratio tail), this became Cessna's Birddog II. Since I have a STC that fixes the front of a stock birddog by removing the non supported Continetal O-470-11, or -15 by installing a Factory new Lycoming O-540 (250hp) FireWallFoward (SuperDog I), I decided it was time to fix the tail! (SuperDog II) When considering the square tail, I had found that the trim jack screws for the "flying Horizontal" were about $10k each I decided that the elevator mounted trim tab was the way to go, this also kept from having to re-do the cockpit controls for the trim system. the stock dog (without all that old military radio gear in the baggage compartment) was left with a very forward C/G, thus the tail stalls first, the benefit of the square tail is that it is big enough to keep this from happening,(hence the tail can now keep the wing working down to a VsO of 38mph!!) this also gives the plane shorter takeoff, shorter landing and better stability, resulting in a smoother ride! The square tail is better faired and results in an increase in cruise speed,also this new installation includes the tubular tail spring, which incorporates the better 3400 series tail wheel and also give an extra 8.5" of wheel base which is significant in the ground handling aspect (much less likely to ground loop!!!!)

and probably the biggest advantage is that it just looks cool!...lol

if you go to my web site http://www.birddogsbynoyes.com and click on the "more info link" you will find some brochures which you can click on and open to read/print

order yours today!

keep doggin'

From what I understand the 01-C had a gross weight of 2800 lbs, does this mean the superdog II could also?

This one seems to have a 185 tail with the larger dorsal fin. Anyone know the story with it?

HI River Rat,

According to the TCDS for the O-1C, it had a gross of 2690#'s, and it had a hi empty weight of about 1920#'s. The L-19's (305A's) had a gross of 2100#'s, then other models (305, BCDE)were 2400#'s, and there is a model (F) that is 2400/2800#'s. most empty weights around 1600#'s. The SuperDog I & II are both Standard Airworthiness Cert, Normal Category, this allows for a Gross of 2400#'s all models. To convert a birddog into the SuperDog I or II, they actually go out with a lighter Empty weight than it came in with.!!

as for the yellow dog in the pic, yes, I know this person personally, it is Canadian and is EXPERIMENTAL, and the tail parts are not standard "bolt on" parts, plus they did not address the tail spring / wheel issue, as it retained the original flat leaf spring tail spring. as for the larger dorsal fin, I stayed away from that because it is the cause of needing a locking tail wheel.

keep doggin'

Interesting, the only reason we don't have one yet is the man with the chequebook is concerned with the lack of usefull load.
I'd have one myself but I'd have to part with my beloved 170 to do it and its just not practical compared to the 170:(

here is a quick all around video of a stock dog by Noyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU0ioej ... e=youtu.be


keep doggin'

here is what turned out to be a neat video from over the weekend!

watch the shadow carefully!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFN0IJczB0A

keep doggin'

steve

YouTube says video unavailable Steve

HI River Rat, I came here to the post, (without signing in), clicked on the link and it took right off.... (no pun intended)

drop me an e mail and ill send you the link directly if it wont work for you

thanks
steve
[email protected]

Link worked for me...at home...on a pc. Maybe you're on a mobile device??

I'm on an iPad but all the other ones work on it.

Never mind, it works now.

Birddogs have a great STOL capability, give the impression of going straight up instead climbing up. Big flaps, (mine had manual), very effective for approach.Parts may become very hard to find and expensive(like pressure carb o/h). Gear box is a weak point on tired examples.Most Birddogs have worked for living: banner glider tow, ex military.There are mods available through PPONK.There's a wing extension mod for seaplane ops. They say a Birddog makes an excellent seaplane- I have not flown one. The gear is bouncy, in stiff crosswing good working brakes are mandatory.They are a blast to fly and an excellent towplane.

as far as being an excellent seaplane, you are correct, its an even better seaplane as a SuperDog on Amphibs! Here Is the Only SuperDog certified on 2790's that I happen to have for sale!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50328264@N04/5002333769/in/pool-cessnal19o1birddog_/


this SuperDog on Amphibs will still cruise at 120mph!!


keep doggin'
steve
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I was out doing some nice spring ski flying here in the north of Maine today!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekf1ZdtAdsk

http://youtu.be/BcSHxlttN-c

http://youtu.be/IkTiEZRt-lY

http://youtu.be/wRYo3cn5sSM

keep doggin'

steve

mbdave wrote:A good book about Bird Dogs in Viet Nam: A Hundred Feet Over Hell by Jim Hooper

I just finished reading this well written book yesterday and it was fantastic.

http://www.amazon.com/Hundred-Feet-Over ... +over+hell

A buddy of mine is not going to renew his medical, Cammo SuperDog I, this airframe was a complete restoration, all the bells and whistles, skis, and is the only SuperDog certified on Amphibs.

keep doggin'

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