Land of disappearance
Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:32 pm
Keep the shiney side up and the dirty side down...
Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:17 pm
Re: Land of disappearance
Good Read, Don
Thanks......
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:32 pm
Re: Land of disappearance
Used to fly ch 2 KTUU on the Iditarod for years.and Regal Air flew the ADN with Craig Medred He was always fun on the trail. Missed his duck Hunting story this year
glaciercub wrote:Good Read, Don
Thanks......
Keep the shiney side up and the dirty side down...
Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:44 pm
Re: Land of disappearance
Almost posted that myself, but was lazy. First reader reply was kind of lame. I'm not always eye-to-eye with Medred, but he makes a good point here that wishful thinking needs to be tempered with cold hard reality, and comes a point where someone needs to come out and say so.
Seems to me that a reward isn't likely to change the outcome of anything, except perhaps for a few pilots detouring past when flying near that country. Consider that they spent a million bucks, logged 60,000 flight miles, and threw all available SAR and government resources at it for two weeks. The map of the search area was absolutely plastered with magenta flight tracks. If the wreckage turns up, it will be because someone is having a real lucky day, not because the families sweetened the pot.
As I understand, the plane was on straight floats. Seems that if it went into one of the lakes, at least something would have remained afloat and washed up on a lakeshore, but I haven't heard anything about lake searches or speculation about ditching in all the coverage. Seems surprising.
Bottom line, it's a damn shame. Friend of a friend was on board.
-DP
Seems to me that a reward isn't likely to change the outcome of anything, except perhaps for a few pilots detouring past when flying near that country. Consider that they spent a million bucks, logged 60,000 flight miles, and threw all available SAR and government resources at it for two weeks. The map of the search area was absolutely plastered with magenta flight tracks. If the wreckage turns up, it will be because someone is having a real lucky day, not because the families sweetened the pot.
As I understand, the plane was on straight floats. Seems that if it went into one of the lakes, at least something would have remained afloat and washed up on a lakeshore, but I haven't heard anything about lake searches or speculation about ditching in all the coverage. Seems surprising.
Bottom line, it's a damn shame. Friend of a friend was on board.
-DP
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:07 pm
Re: Land of disappearance
Don,
They are in the water. If you were down there in bad weather you would fly up the coast to the McNeil river and head home.
I don't think they made it off salt water. When float planes hit the water hard nothing comes up. We have a few in the lake to attest to that.
Did any one actually see them get airborne? Could they have gone down on take off?
GR
They are in the water. If you were down there in bad weather you would fly up the coast to the McNeil river and head home.
I don't think they made it off salt water. When float planes hit the water hard nothing comes up. We have a few in the lake to attest to that.
Did any one actually see them get airborne? Could they have gone down on take off?
GR
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:17 pm
Land of disappearance
Searched the lakes, searched the strait and the bays, and searched the beaches on the lakes and in the bays. Only helps if there was something of significance floating.
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:21 pm
Re: Land of disappearance
Yep that's about all u can do 
Just surprised Van would keep that guy on with his accident record
Just surprised Van would keep that guy on with his accident record once&futr_alaskaflyer wrote:Searched the lakes, searched the strait and the bays, and searched the beaches on the lakes and in the bays. Only helps if there was something of significance floating.
Keep the shiney side up and the dirty side down...
Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:31 pm
Re: Land of disappearance
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/voices/me ... appearance
http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=ANC92LA085&rpt=fi
Posted By: Jason Roth @ 09.10.2010 3:24 PM
Kent was my brother and I was the pilot of the other plane on the trip to Yakutat. Bill Woodland and I flew home early in the morning that day as weather was forecast to deteriorate and my plane was not equipped for flying into known icing conditions.
To say that I am conflicted as to families offers of rewards or to pay for fuel, etc. would be a gross understatement. We did that and in addition to losing three of my brothers and two of my best friends (who easily qualified to be my brothers) a young 20 year–old pilot lost his life during the search. I never had the opportunity to express my gratitude to him as I never had the privilege to even meet him. Attending his funeral was as difficult as attending the services held for Jeff, Scott, Kent, Brian and Tim.
I can say this much. As long as there would be hope for their rescue I wouldn’t hesitate to make the same offer again. However, at the point it becomes a search for answers and closure I would hope nothing I would do would put anyone else in harm’s way.
Search and Rescue in Alaska is exceeding dangerous. I thank Mr. Medred for the accuracy in the article.
http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=ANC92LA085&rpt=fi
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