I finally got a chance to go through my fathers belongings after his death. I found a "Cessna engine and propeller log book" and on the cover is has "N8216T (which is now registered as a piper) and a serial number of 16142-0-D.
On the inside "engine discription" it's shown as a Continental engine...175 HP. I can't read the model # but the serial number is as listed above. It shows a gear ratio of .75 to 1.
The propeller section has a hub serial number of 70204 64 pitch and 84 diameter and it's a Mccauley.
This book goes from 1960 to 1966. I don't know where my father got this book...he only owned a 182 prior to owning the Maule.
I'd hate to throw this book away without at least trying to find out if someone could use it.

The N number is for a PA 32-301 registered to an outfit in alaska. My father spent a lot of time in Alaska and may have got this book while he was here. The problem is that this PA32 was manufactured in 1982 and the log book is from 60 to 66. Any help or advice would be appreciated. I know how important log books are to people.

That would be the engine logbook from a Cessna 175. Probably no longer in service, since another airplane now owns the tail number, though it is possible that the tail number was changed.

The NTSB database doesn't show any accidents for that tail number, though it does show an accident for a C-175 with a tail number of 8217T, at Rampart, AK. See http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/Response2.asp

How was the moose hunt?

MTV

mtv wrote:That would be the engine logbook from a Cessna 175. Probably no longer in service, since another airplane now owns the tail number, though it is possible that the tail number was changed.

The NTSB database doesn't show any accidents for that tail number, though it does show an accident for a C-175 with a tail number of 8217T, at Rampart, AK. See http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/Response2.asp

How was the moose hunt?

MTV

Thanks MTV,
My wife and I went on a cow hunt at a near by lake (you probably know the one but I ain't telling ) and she got her first Moose, pics in my album.

I went on the big hunt with my boss and I spent more time catering to the other 9 hunters flying meat and gear from spike camps to the main "compound" and hunters out to the various spike camps. We didn't need the meat thanks to my wife so I didn't mind flying instead of hunting. Got in and out of Manly just fine on that "container" haul prior to hunting, and the river where the hunt was taking place was plenty for flying in and out of. Of the 10 hunters, there was 5 moose taken ranging from about 63 down to about 40. Weather was a concern on a couple days and I really had to put my foot down when the "non-pilots" figured that since there's room for 2 moose that it will haul two moose. The experience made me a sharper pilot and, with the exception of some bloody hand prints on the outside of the plane and some muddy carpet, the plane didn't suffer a scratch and performed perfectly. It was a hell of a shake down flight after coming out of a year long restoration.

I'll check that accident report to see if there's a way to locate the owner of the 175...if not, I'll toss the log in the trash.

There is a chance that C-175 is still in service, if it went to Canada and back, or maybe it's still in Canada, who knows? You can search by serial number on the FAA site. I know my plane at least has 2 N#'s associated with its serial number, due to living in Canada for a while and then not having the old N# available upon its return to the US. The new N# is close though...just 1 digit truncated.

off the logbook subject,
"there was 5 moose taken ranging from about 63 down to about 40." What do you mean by this? I'm not much of a hunter and i've only seen 2 moose ever but it is interesting? Peter

zane wrote:There is a chance that C-175 is still in service, if it went to Canada and back, or maybe it's still in Canada, who knows? You can search by serial number on the FAA site. I know my plane at least has 2 N#'s associated with its serial number, due to living in Canada for a while and then not having the old N# available upon its return to the US. The new N# is close though...just 1 digit truncated.

The serial numbers I have are for the engine and the prop. The only indication regarding the airframe is the N number which is hand written on the cover and the fact that the book is an official "Cessna" book. The book has 1.1 hrs as the first entry in 1960 so it's the first book out of the factory. I beleive the engine and the fact that it's gear reduced are a good indication that it belongs in a C175. According to the stamps in the book it spent time in Kansas City, Chicago and in Illinois.

Motorcitymaule wrote:off the logbook subject,
"there was 5 moose taken ranging from about 63 down to about 40." What do you mean by this? I'm not much of a hunter and i've only seen 2 moose ever but it is interesting? Peter

The largest Moose taken had an antler spread of about 63" and the smallest had a spread of about 40".
I'll add a pic to my album...I think I have one of the big one. I'd post a picture in this thread but some people think that kind of stuff is yucky

ok cool it is the spread, shit 63 inches man i'm only 70inches

Motorcitymaule wrote:ok cool it is the spread, shit 63 inches man i'm only 70inches

I'm a southerner, so I never saw one for years. When I did, boy was I impressed. Those things are huge. My wife saw one on our trip to the NWT this summer. She wanted to make sure I didn't do a "moose roll" when we circled it.

I think it's pretty impressive that both moose and elk grow their antlers in a relatively short period of time. 60" is a lot of antler in 4 to 5 months? Takes the right nutrients at the right time of year.

A little update for those who are curious.
I e-mailed the FAA aricraft registration department (not expecting a reply) and, guess what...I just got a reply.

They say that 8216T was "deregistered on 4-28-1966"

On 4-1-1966 the log book shows a 100 hr inspection.

Any idea why a plane would be de-registered? An accident? Sombody wanted a different #?

Believe it or not the NTSB database goes back to 1966 (and earlier), and no accident was in there with that tail #.

On the other hand I'm betting that if it was an Alaskan plane it might not have been reported to the NTSB. That never happens, right??

Could have been exported to another country also - Canada or somewhere more exotic.

I sent a reply to the FAA e-mail and asked them if they could tell me if the plane had been re-registered under a different number of if the plane had been destroyed and if they could tell me who the registered owner was prior to deregistration. If they can't help me, as much as I hate to do it, I'll toss the book in the garbage.

I'd bet it went to Canada. If the FAA can give you the serial number of the AIRFRAME, you may be able to get in touch with Transport Canada, and query their system to see if that's the case.

MTV