http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=19448

Here's a few flybys..I know some have been posted before.

Excellent find!

I like the one where the guy doesn't even flinch as the jet passes over. That is hard to do. I can't even keep from ducking when a 206 does that to me.

Good day

Did you natice in the video that most of the low fly bys were done to troops. I know a young man that when in Afganistan in 02, called in air support. After the bad guys were taken care of by the airdales, they came by with a low pass. Their way of saluting and saying your quite welcome. Think the GI's enjoy the show more than most.

Tim

Low passes by fast movers are quite a sight. There's one in particular I'll never forget!

I did the AOPA Stall Spin online safety course. To here them tell it you should never ever buzz people on the ground. It is SOOOOOOO!! dangerous. I do not appreciate them blowing smoke up the used food exit shoot.

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RobBurson wrote:I did the AOPA Stall Spin online safety course. To here them tell it you should never ever buzz people on the ground. It is SOOOOOOO!! dangerous. I do not appreciate them blowing smoke up the used food exit shoot.

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So low fly-by's are NOT risky? Not to mention illegal in many circumstances per the FAR.

Sure, there may be circumstances (out in the boondocks, and no "civilians" getting buzzed) that a low fly-by may be permissible under the FAR. But no matter what, maneuvering flight low to the ground is riskier for pilots and their passengers. Particularly risky for stall/spin accidents, and/or flying into obstacles like the ground, power lines, houses, etc. That's not AOPA blowing smoke - it's a function of physics.

AOPA is particularly dedicated to improving GA safety (which isn't very good statistically, despite huge improvements in aviation technology in the last 20 years), and the image of GA amongst the general taxpaying public. AOPA does this as a means of preserving our access to airspace and airports. Hotshot pilots buzzing (and scaring) civilians, and/or cracking up in preventable stall/spin accidents, are a couple of the bigger, "front page news" political liabilities for GA pilots that threaten our avocation. Criticizing AOPA for discouraging that stuff seems mighty near-sighted.

So low fly-by's are NOT risky? Not to mention illegal in many circumstances per the FAR.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you probably want to stay away from Austin Nevada next August. Just sayin'

There is nothing finer in the world than finding a buddy on the ground not checking his six, and catching him unawares!!! That, and maybe have a coyote do the drop and roll to bite the tires as you pass by.

Gump

Nothing like a good buzz job.

gb

nmflyguy wrote:

RobBurson wrote:I did the AOPA Stall Spin online safety course. To here them tell it you should never ever buzz people on the ground. It is SOOOOOOO!! dangerous. I do not appreciate them blowing smoke up the used food exit shoot.

Good day

So low fly-by's are NOT risky? Not to mention illegal in many circumstances per the FAR.

Sure, there may be circumstances (out in the boondocks, and no "civilians" getting buzzed) that a low fly-by may be permissible under the FAR. But no matter what, maneuvering flight low to the ground is riskier for pilots and their passengers. Particularly risky for stall/spin accidents, and/or flying into obstacles like the ground, power lines, houses, etc. That's not AOPA blowing smoke - it's a function of physics.

AOPA is particularly dedicated to improving GA safety (which isn't very good statistically, despite huge improvements in aviation technology in the last 20 years), and the image of GA amongst the general taxpaying public. AOPA does this as a means of preserving our access to airspace and airports. Hotshot pilots buzzing (and scaring) civilians, and/or cracking up in preventable stall/spin accidents, are a couple of the bigger, "front page news" political liabilities for GA pilots that threaten our avocation. Criticizing AOPA for discouraging that stuff seems mighty near-sighted.

nmflyguy, I am sure you and AOPA are correct. As as a matter of fact you sound just like AOPA course. You can't legislate common since. If you want to do a low pass and hit something attached to the ground, what can I say. Bad deal. IMO it is not as dangerous as we are indoctrinated to believe.

What would I know though, I have never buzzed or done a low pass. I have had to do a few go arounds.

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gbflyer wrote:Nothing like a good buzz job.

gb

Amen!!

What if your entire flight takes place at less than 50 agl, is this still considered "buzzing"? (I call it flight planning.)

I can remember flying entire months, 100-150+ hours, and never getting above 500 ft AGL. And even then sometimes 50 ft was too high.

Gump

From the perspective of the cockpit, a low fly-by is not unsafe, as you the pilot possess all the control of the situation. To the ground dwellers, an unsolicited low fly-by can be terrifying. Maybe not to other pilots-- we live for this stuff-- but as we've seen so much in the news and other threads, aviation is an ever increasing mysterious discipline practiced by Steve Fossets and incompetent wild men who seemingly always end up in the middle of a burning house with tail feathers sticking out or with their mortal coil painted across the Sierra like jelly. Aviation is not "safe" to those watching who would prefer we don't fly our little machines at all.

My philosophy is to buzz other pilots and buddies only if 1) I'm sure no aviation-ignorant scaredy cats are going to report an aircraft in distress, and 2) it doesn't make me look like a dumbshit. I've been to a few campouts (long before BCP) where guys flew low over and circled the camp constantly. Even as a pilot, that annoys me.

But hey, no need to get so serious. I enjoyed the video...again.

well Nmfly, if you don't like them please don't go to Austin Next year...

The Austin Fly-In is kinda like this joke:

An old Prospector, living way out in the middle of no where, is surprised, when there's a knock at his door, late one night. When he opens the door, there stands a big, burrly Mountain Man.
"Howdy neighbor" the Mountain Man says.
"Neighbor, I didn't realize I had any neighbors" the old prospector replies.
"Oh yeah, I just live over that Mountain, 3 or 4 miles, and thought I'd come by, and invite you to a Party I'm having next Saturday night, around 6:00" grins the Mountain Man.
" A PARTY! Why that's mighty neighborly of you. Of course I'll be there" says the old Prospector.
"Great" says the Mountain Man, "but I should probably warn you, there's going to be a lot of drinking"
"That's OK, I haven't had a bottle in a year, I could sure use a stiff drink" says the old man.
"And, I should tell you, there is going to be a lot of fighting" replies the Mountain Man.
"Well, don't you worry about me, I can hold my own if a fight breaks out" says the old Man.
"And, there's going to be a lot of sex involved" explains the Mountain Man.
"OH BOY!" grins the old Man. "I don't know about you, but it's been a long time for me. What should I wear?
"Oh, that ain't important" grins the Mountain Man. "It's just going to be You, and Me"

It's only us there, and what happens there, stays there.

Gump

And if you guys have ever seen Mr Scout with Coco the stuffed ape, you know the sex part is true. Bunch of little monkey babies running all over that airport now.



Gump

GumpAir wrote:Coco the stuffed ape

I think I'm afraid to ask..........

Crop dusters manage to fly low quite a bit, with some degree of control. If you believe everything you're told, there should be no living crop dusters with more than ten hours time in their log.

Problem is, they don't teach stick and rudder flying skills anymore. All that time spent on things like stalls, spins, "contact flying", off-field emergency landings, etc. - why it gets in the way of teaching the students how to properly adjust the Garmin/HAL 9000.

I fly 12-15 hrs/week every week and never get above 500 feet.