TAS = CAS corrected for temperature and pressure altitude. (CAS) + (.02 x MSL / 1000). My plane has a TAS airspeed indicator you line up the temp with the altitude ane read the TAS off of the IAS needle.

jmtnt,

Thanks for the feedback. I am 6'1" and 260. When I try to squeeze my 6'-2" 240lb friend in a 172 or 172XP we have to leave the doors open and take turns leaning out the door while the other guy fastens his seatbelt. Then, when the belts are fastened, we suck in our guts and slam the doors. A lot like trying to get the last button closed on your 501 Levis. You can't wait till the end of the day to take them off and take a deep breath. Put the same guys in a 182, and its nice and comfortable. Enough room to both take a deep breath at the same time w/o popping the doors open.

So, it would be really cool if the M-5 had as much room as a 182, but would out-fly it on both the short field and cruise arena.

DEGJR

jmtgt,

The 235 engine is a Lycoming no? Can you get a STC for auto fuel for that engine? Also, how does the fuel burn comare to the 0-470 Continental in the 182s?

DEGJR

DEGJR,

The M-5-235 will do a solid 150mph true wearing size 7.00 shoes. The O-540 does have a Mogas STC available.

John, my M-4-220 is 1mph faster than your M-5...Na,Na,na,na,na!

Oooh, I don't know if I want to get drawn into a pissing match but here goes.. At sea level, at 24 squared, my indicated is 145. My actual on the GPS in calm skies, is about 140-145mph. I have talked to a number of guys with my engine/prop and the concenus is that it likes to be run "hard". At lower settings, 21" +/- it uses more oil, and not that much less fuel with about a 15-20 mph drop in speed.These engines are designed to run and run well. IMHO, the harder the better. This engine has 1520TTSN and 450 in the last three-years. We're at TBO now and on condition. Compression is 70-75 across the board, oil analysis is always good and I burn 1-qt every 8-10 hours of mixed use (lots of throttle work, T & G's, slow flight etc.) Sorry, kind of got off the thread there..
No noticable change from the 8's to 8:50's except I had the learn how to land again. For now, no choice in my head, love the 8:50's! Only thing I would change to will be the BW's.

Damnit Kurt, moving to Alaska?? This means the pressure is on for me to actually make a nw fly-in before June.

Kurt,

It sounds like our planes are pretty evenly matched. With the same size tires we see 138-140 mph at 2500/23" I flight plan for 120kts. I think I could see a couple knots more if I got rid of some of the antennas - unused DME, antiquated ADF.

You could buy a Mooney, that would make you faster.

All,

Thanks for all the info about the M-5. Below is a link of what looks like a pretty nice M-5 235 with a high time engine. Only asking $37,000.

DEGJR

http://www.aso.com/aircraft/94802/

I have a cargas STC brochure from Petersen, for Maules with the Lycoming 320,360, or 540 engine it sez to contact Ray Maule in Moultrie GA, and that they require modifications to the fuel system.
The IO-360 Cont & the 220 Franklin are 100LL only.

Eric

DEGJR,

There's something not right about that right wing root. It looks patched.

If your interested in something close by there's a really nice M-5-235 for sale in Caldwell. You might be able to get him to come down further on the price because of the engine hours, but that engine could easily go 2500 hrs. or more.

http://mauleairplanes.com/ads/classifieds.php?a=2&b=126

We saw this M-5 at Johnson Creek last June and it's pretty nice. This plane doesn't need anything but a set of bushwheels. That's our plane parked behind it.

Strata,

I had checked out that plane previously, and it looks like a dandy! Unfortunately, I am just a tire kicker right now. I will have to endure about two more years of Rental Roulette before I have enough bills paid off to consider a purchase. I have been to Smiley, Johnson, Moose Creek, Warm Springs this past summer for camping etc. That is what flying is all about! So when I do get a plane I want one that fits that kind of flying. Right now I am learning as much as I can about Maule's and 182's, since I think they fit that mission the best for the lowest operating cost.

Okay, after all that rigamarole, the Montana guy didn't come through and one of our local pilots bought the M5-235C on floats. Since it happened to be stored in his hangar anyway, it doesn't even have to move!

Hooray, we get to keep this little monster around to play with. He has a place on the Mississippi above the dam so it even stays on floats!

Brad

Talking about the cruise speed of the M5. Any of you maule guys know anything about the M5-210TC? The Maule spec is cruise at 170 knots.

I had an opportunity to talk to a guy about a year ago that had one of these rare machines for a short while. Said it went like a scalded cat! There are only three of these birds left. I am to understand that there was a hangar fire at Maule and the others burned. Three were left. I know, sounds like some kind of urban legend. My take is that it was a pretty cool plane but not so that they (Maule) made any more. I have looked at the possibility of and value of doing a 337 to make mine a TC250, M-4. NOT! Let's just say it's not cost effective. I have a friend that's into fantasy football. This would be fantasy airplane. 100' TO, 2500 fpm climb at gross & 170 kts cruise @ 8gph. Yea, Definitely fantasy airplane

In doing alittle research, the engine is a TO-360-F1A6D Lyc. The old conical mount, the aero commander 112TC uses the TO-360-C1A6D engine, same engine, but with the dynafocal mount. Max boost pressure in the maule app, is 42 inhg.
In 70% of the fatal vehicle accidents in the US the last thing the driver said was "oh shitt" In Wyoming in 80% of the fatal vehicle accidents the last thing the driver said was "hold my beer and watch this".
That's what a 210TC sounds like on take off, "hold my beer and watch this".

benflyn wrote:In doing alittle research, the engine is a TO-360-F1A6D Lyc. The old conical mount, the commander 112TC or the 114TC uses the TO-360-C1A6D engine, same engine, but with the dynafocal mount. Max boost pressure in the maule app, is 42 inhg.
In 70% of the fatal vehicle accidents in the US the last thing the driver said was "oh shitt" In Wyoming in 80% of the fatal vehicle accidents the last thing the driver said was "hold my beer and watch this".
That's what a 210TC sounds like on take off, "hold my beer and watch this".

If I had to remove my Frank for some reason I think I would look into this...

DEGJR,

If you are just kickin tires, here is one to kick, M5-235 at this link. It was in TAP. It might be worth the money.

www.kwphoto.com/maule

My wife likes the paint on that plane better than mine. Traitor! I did too until I noticed they painted over the original Razorback. Does that set off warning bels for you guy's too?