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Montana coyote

Anyone have any experience with one? I picked up a project and am planning on some mods. There is not much out there on the net I can find on this bird.

If anyone has any experience in one I would love to bend your ear.
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Re: Montana coyote

I looked really hard at one in Wisconsin before I bought the Maule instead. It had a D&E Riblett wing and a Wittman Tailwind cowl. I have a lot of documentation about them on my hard drive if you like. Also have a number for a guy in Idaho that has one flying. PM me if you want any of that info.
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Re: Montana coyote

Kinda like an Avid Magnum, which I built and flew for 40+ hours. It had an 0-320 in it and performed real well in climb and cruise, but was not so good on the low end, not enough wing for my taste for the weight. The original designer was an old Avid guy, and was based out of Helena for a while. A buddy, Gary, and I took a trip up there to see about him building the wood ribs, another friend of mine who I introduced to Dan Denny, built all the Kitfox ribs for some years out of his cabinet shop in Pocatello. Gary ended up building less then half a dozen sets of ribs as I recall, then it kind of fizzeled out.

With your experience with the Avid and Kitfox line, building this up shouldn't present any particular problem. That Magnum cruised at 118 mph ind. Big baggage obviously, like the Magnum.
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Re: Montana coyote

Thanks for the replies. Yes, in looking at it this is basically a 33% scaled up avid. I am loving the huge baggage area on it. Future plans for the D&E wing but for now it will fly with the original wing.
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Re: Montana coyote

I hate to revive a 10 year old thread, but a friend just bought a Coyote with an 0-360. Getting it current on maintenance now, but I haven't seen any W&B information.

Can anyone tell me what the CG range is? Or who might be someone with the information?
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Re: Montana coyote

Does the airplane have the required ARROW documents on board?
The O stands for operating limitations, the W for weight & balance.
The information you're looking for should be found in one or both of both.
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hotrod180 wrote:Does the airplane have the required ARROW documents on board?
The O stands for operating limitations, the W for weight & balance.
The information you're looking for should be found in one or both of both.


Wow, never thought of that.
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Re: Montana coyote

StillLearning wrote:
hotrod180 wrote:Does the airplane have the required ARROW documents on board?
The O stands for operating limitations, the W for weight & balance.
The information you're looking for should be found in one or both of both.


Wow, never thought of that.


Sarcasm detected.
You didn't mention if those documents had been checked, or were missing, or ?
Sorry if I offended you.
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It is not surprising sometimes that owners of EAB aircraft aren't better checked on compliance items that are universal to certified and experimental aircraft. W&B, logs, airplane flight manual/POH or whatever was available for the kit build can be discarded by the naive and ignorant successive owners.

"Huh?"

Anyway, from this hit, there is a type club that exists, or did exist. Might be a lead to follow:

Type Club: Group organized for the Mountain Eagle and the Montana Coyote 8/6/2002

David Staffeldt
8547 272nd Avenue
Salem, WI 53168

Telephone: 262-889-8308
Email: [email protected]
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Re: Montana coyote

hotrod180 wrote:Does the airplane have the required ARROW documents on board?
The O stands for operating limitations, the W for weight & balance.
The information you're looking for should be found in one or both of both.


I'm betting he's well aware of that, which is why he's LOOKING for that very information. This sounds like a project or at least something that hasn't flown for a bit. In any case, he's likely going to have to find a set of drawings and try to derive the data points to create the W/B data.
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Zzz wrote:It is not surprising sometimes that owners of EAB aircraft aren't better checked on compliance items that are universal to certified and experimental aircraft. W&B, logs, airplane flight manual/POH or whatever was available for the kit build can be discarded by the naive and ignorant successive owners.

"Huh?"

Anyway, from this hit, there is a type club that exists, or did exist. Might be a lead to follow:

Type Club: Group organized for the Mountain Eagle and the Montana Coyote 8/6/2002

David Staffeldt
8547 272nd Avenue
Salem, WI 53168

Telephone: 262-889-8308
Email: [email protected]



Thank you for that.

I have some information, but it is hand written with nothing to indicate who wrote it or when. It might be accurate, but who knows. There was not a current w&b with the plane. It was recently flown, but when I asked the previous owner where the CG was, the look on his face said it all. Previous owner says he built it, but there are no drawings, or anything associated with the kit. The only w&b information shows weights, moments (with incorrect math), and cg. But does not indicate how the plane was equipped at the time of weighing. Were the 29's on it? I know the current prop wasn't on it. There is a battery box in the back that's empty, and a battery on the firewall.
There is one hand written line saying cg range is 13% to 30% of MAC, 30 sounds pretty far back to me.
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