Not so sure it's as much a myth as much as it is a fact, but the Mythbusters are on right now trying to reproduce the accident where this happened:



I tuned in kind of late, but there was footage of them handpropping some Amer Champion and trying get a 6-cyl engine running. They're building an accident simulator.

Yeah, I've seen that one before.

"It slices! It dices! It'll even let you make ILS approaches ...while it juliennes!"

I would've hate to have been the right rear passenger!!

Wait a minute, Mythbusters is recreating this incident? So how does that work? One of them gets married, pisses her off and divorces her. Then she takes a sawsall and slices his plane in revenge. That's the story I read when I first saw that photo some years ago.

Actually, I thought the story was true and come to think about it I figured the plane belonged to Gump. That is with all the stories I've read about his X-wives. Sorry Mr. Gump, I couldn't resist...... Sir.

Roger

So.......how many ex-wifes do you have, Gump? Or is that none of my damn business??

58Skylane wrote:So.......how many ex-wifes do you have, Gump?

How many wives have I had... My own or other guy's?????

Gump

GumpAir wrote:

58Skylane wrote:So.......how many ex-wifes do you have, Gump?

How many wives have I had... My own or other guy's?????

Gump

That's funny crap there.......I don't care who you are!!! I almost fell out of my chair on that one!!

But No........you don't need to tell me. Sorry I asked.

This is interesting

http://media.aopa.org/asf/0809runway/ABE091908_V3AOPA.html

What was the WX? It's understandable if there was bad visability, but the airplane on downwind could see the Air Shuttle guy. For some reason could the tower not see the airplane on the runway, or could not the Air Shuttle not see it? Whay did the Air Shuttle not call an aborted T/O?
Lot's of questions, I assume there is more to the story

a64pilot wrote:What was the WX? It's understandable if there was bad visability, but the airplane on downwind could see the Air Shuttle guy. For some reason could the tower not see the airplane on the runway, or could not the Air Shuttle not see it? Whay did the Air Shuttle not call an aborted T/O?
Lot's of questions, I assume there is more to the story

I was wondering the same thing. I don't know anymore info. I got the link from a friend. I'll dig through he NTSB reports and see.

NTSB Identification: OPS08IA015A
Scheduled 14 CFR
Incident occurred Friday, September 19, 2008 in Allentown, PA
Aircraft: Bombardier, Inc. CRJ-700, registration: N506MJ
Injuries: 61 Uninjured.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On September 19, 2008, at approximately 1945 eastern daylight time, a runway incursion occurred involving a Mesa Airlines CRJ-700, N506MJ, call sign ASH7138, and a Cessna R172K, N736GV, at the Lehigh Valley International Airport (ABE), Allentown, Pennsylvania. There were no injuries to the 4 crew and 56 passengers aboard the CRJ700. No information on the Cessna as of yet. The incident occurred during night visual meteorological conditions.

Cessna N736GV was on landing roll on runway 6 when the tower controller instructed ASH7138 to taxi into position and hold on the same runway. The controller instructed the Cessna pilot to exit the runway at taxiway A4 then cleared ASH7138 for takeoff. During their takeoff roll, the ASH7138 crew heard the Cessna pilot say that he'd missed the taxiway A4 turnoff and ask to exit at taxiway B. The ASH7138 crew saw the Cessna ahead, aborted the takeoff at about 120 knots, and swerved around the Cessna. The ASH7138 crew estimated they missed colliding with the Cessna by 10 feet.

Air Shuttle did abort.....


....that is what saved the day. Who knows why shuttle didn't see the light aircraft until well down the runway. Perhaps a rise in the runway, perhaps reduced horizontal v/s vertical vis.

Shuttle must have seen the traffic fairly soon as it appears that he stopped before taxiway B....where the light aircraft was turning off.

Never count on the controller to save your bacon. Tower personel sometimes don't follow carefully the surface traffic. It appears that the controller "assumed' that the light aircraft exited the runway at the first turn off; even though he issued the instruction as the aircraft was passing by the taxiway.

We are all human. We make mistakes. It takes all of us to cover our collective butts.

Merry Christmas,

Bob

58Skylane wrote:This is interesting

http://media.aopa.org/asf/0809runway/ABE091908_V3AOPA.html

Good find, that is a really cool presentation with the use of recorded transmissions, positions, and Google Earth.

z3skybolt wrote:Air Shuttle did abort.....


....that is what saved the day.

I know, what I thought was interesting was that there was no conversation with the tower about the abort, or "there is an aircraft on the runway" or anything until after it was over. Remember there was also an airplane which should have turned final about this time, it could have been even worse.
I left KLZU Mon. morning with the ceiling of 100 ft. and vis less than 1/8 mile. The runway is 07/25. There was no wind. An A star was departing just before me on 07, My on course heading was 180, so I was departing 25. I had to look out of the side window to follow the taxiway the vis was so poor. You laugh, but I was worried that the A Star and I were obviously pointed at each other even though I was on the parallel taxi way and he on the runway, or I hoped he was on the runway. I started to ask him to ensure he was on the runway, but thought that would sound foolish.
I have this concern of having a "mid air" on the ground. I have had so many people taxi out in front of me on short final because the tower cleared them to runway ___ and didn't say hold short and they didn't realise they didn't have clearence not to taxi on the runway etc. that I always look real good now and don't trust people like I used to. I think more and more people are flying less and less now and this kind of mistake is becoming more common.
BTW, I would say ATC is not the primary one to blame here.

Simple answer to your question about no comments on the air about the near miss....it's REAL hard to talk in a conversational tone to an ATC facility while you are shitting peach pits...

MTV

58Skylane wrote:This is interesting

http://media.aopa.org/asf/0809runway/ABE091908_V3AOPA.html

P, how did you find that? I went to the ASF site but couldn't find any similar accident analyses that had Flash-based presentations like that.

1SeventyZ wrote:

58Skylane wrote:This is interesting

http://media.aopa.org/asf/0809runway/ABE091908_V3AOPA.html

P, how did you find that? I went to the ASF site but couldn't find any similar accident analyses that had Flash-based presentations like that.

It was emailed to me from a friend. I'll ask where he got it from.

P

ASF builds those animations for some of their programs. There are a few in online courses and they use them in public presentations.

MTV

Found another animated runway incursion.

http://flash.aopa.org/asf/faarunwaysafety/DAB_112407V3AOPA.swf

I can't remember all the details but I do remember a picture in the East Oregonian (Pendleton, OR news paper). It was about 1980 or maybe a couple years later. A full sized station wagon car had its top sliced like the airplane pictured in the first post of this thread.

People were in the car watching a plane spray a field near Hermiston when the sprayer got a little to low coming over the car. Amazingly no one was injured, I think it said in the paper.

Watched a Sea Fury eat the airport Jeep Cherokee at Truckee Air Show one year. That was more than ugly. Pilot turned into the sun while parking and didn't see that the "follow me" Jeep had stopped. It rained steel for a minute or two.

Gump