Nasty bug bite @ Johnson Creek,
Anyone know what might have bitten me on the lip at Johnson Creek, my lip was sore Saturday night I thought it was from the sun, I flew home Monday, on Tuesday morning I had a small blister on my lip, now on Thursday it has progressed to the point that the right side of my face, lip and glands are swollen and my upper teeth are numb, looks like I got punched in the face. Nasty thing this is. but I may need to seek medical help and I know that they will ask me what might have bitten me, the only thing that I can remember being in my tent was a small furry caterpillar. This caterpillar may be related to the bunny on Monty Python’s meaning of life. Humor is allowed on this reply.

sounds like a bee sting

I pulled a Tick off myself several times during the week but doubt it was that. Mosquitoes were pretty gnarly at times.

Got lots of Mosquito bites but nothing like this.

Last Friday afternoon I took my once a week shower @JC and pulled a tick off my belly just above the belt line he was just digging in, never felt it, I was rinsing off soap looked down saw something black that didn't wash off. It pulled off easy, I got a little bite mark there now real small but no severe lesions or a ring (lyme disease) yet.

On the lips, you say? I think we should check the other attendees for similar signs of infection!

It only hurts when I smile!

Wasn't there but sounds to me like a darn spider bite, especially the way it's acting, some very ugly spiders out there.
If it was, I wouldn't wait to go get it looked at, Brown Recluse is a real nasty one and pretty common. Not very aggressive.
Darn thing kinda acts like a rattlesnake, takes a few days to really get going.

GT

As suggested by its specific epithet reclusa ("recluse"), brown recluses are rarely aggressive, and actual bites from the species are rare. (In 2001, more than 2,000 brown recluse spiders were removed from a heavily infested home in Kansas, yet the four residents who had lived there for years were never harmed by the spiders, despite many encounters with them.[11]) The spider usually bites only when pressed against the skin, such as when tangled up within clothes, towels, bedding, inside work gloves, etc. Many human victims of brown recluse bites report having been bitten after putting on clothes that had not recently been worn or lying undisturbed on the floor.
The initial brown recluse bite frequently is not felt and may not be immediately painful, yet such a bite can be serious. However, the fangs of the brown recluse are so tiny they are unable to penetrate most fabric, including socks.[12]
The brown recluse bears a potentially deadly hemotoxic venom. Most bites are minor with no necrosis. However, a small number of clinically-diagnosed brown recluse bites do produce severe dermonecrotic lesions (i.e., necrosis); an even smaller number of clinically-diagnosed brown recluse bites produce severe cutaneous (skin) or viscerocutaneous (systemic) symptoms. In one study of clinically-diagnosed brown recluse bites, the incidence of skin necrosis was 37% and the incidence of systemic illness was 14%.[13] In these instances the bites produced a range of symptoms common to many members of the Loxosceles genus known as loxoscelism, which may be cutaneous (skin) and viscerocutaneous (systemic).
Most brown recluse spiders' bites do not result in necrosis, let alone systemic effects. When both types of loxoscelism do result, systemic effects may occur before necrosis, as the venom spreads throughout the body in minutes. Debilitated patients, the elderly, and children may be more susceptible to systemic loxoscelism. The systemic symptoms that are most commonly experienced as the result of a brown recluse bite include nausea, vomiting, fever, rashes, and muscle and joint pain. Rarely, such bites can result in hemolysis, thrombocytopenia, disseminated intravascular coagulation, organ damage, and even death.[14] Most fatalities are children under the age of seven[15] or those with a weaker-than-normal immune system.
While it is important to note that the majority of brown recluse spider bites do not result in any symptoms, cutaneous symptoms occur as a result of such bites more frequently than systemic symptoms. In such instances, the bite forms a necrotizing ulcer that destroys soft tissue and may take months to heal, leaving deep scars. These bites usually become painful and itchy within 2 to 8 hours, pain and other local effects worsen 12 to 36 hours after the bite, and the necrosis develops over the next few days.[16] Over time, the wound may grow to as large as 25 cm (10 inches) in extreme cases. The damaged tissue becomes gangrenous and eventually sloughs away.
[edit]Validity of necrosis claims
It is estimated that 80% of reported brown recluse bites may be misdiagnosed. The misdiagnosis of a wound as a brown recluse bite could delay proper treatment of serious diseases.[3] There is now an ELISA-based test for brown recluse venom that can determine whether a wound is a brown recluse bite, although it is not commercially available and not in routine clinical use; clinical diagnoses often use Occam's razor principle in diagnosing bites based on what spiders the patient likely encountered and what previous diagnoses are similar.[3][13][17]

Please see a doctor!! Two years ago I bumped off a tick, identified it to my doctor after I got a rash..got some pretty powerful anibiotic just in case. There are a lot worse things you can get than Lyme disease. When in doubt querry the internet..different ticks carry different diseases!! Spiders or ticks, the little buggars can cause you problems.
HC

It's from the Gona-herp-a-syphil-aids bug! I agree, go to the doc and just say you're not sure. Let them tell you what is was!

Go to Public Health and check on Rob's contact list. It's probably the Black Syph, and it'll be off to the island for you.

Gump

Hmmm Did you visit Sulphur Creek one night?

spider bits are quite "hard", they almost feel like a small piece of wood metal ect. are in the center. and usually have a red line in the general direction to the heart. I have been bitten by spider 6 or 8 times, so that is how I know.

If it appears to be like a bulls-eye it is a Lyme's tick bit and there is a about 3-4 week window for treatment before it sets in to stay.

French green clay is very good at pulling toxins out of you, and you can find it at any health food store. All you have to do is make a paste "mud" out of it with water in a wood or glass bowl using a wooden spoon to mix it up with ( wooden is best but steel will work). Apply that paste to where the bit is and keep moist when you go to bed or when ever you feel like it. You can also eat the clay but I wouldn't do it if I have thing to do if I where you because it most likely will make you feel sick for a couple days if taken every day because it is taking so many toxins of of your body. note: do not mix the clay in a plastic or metal bowl as it will take all the toxins out of the bowl and not do you any good when you apply it will not work as it should on you.

Just a story but true. We had a cat that had got bitten by a copperhead on the front leg. When we found her she couldn't walk at all, so we brought her inside and tried to put clay on her leg we couldn't because she would eat the clay as fast as we would try to put it on her leg. So we tricked her into eat it off our fingers as we put it on her leg and wrapped it up so she couldn't eat it. the next morning she was back in the barn with a swollen leg but happy to be outside feeling like a champ. That was a couple years ago and we still have the cat.

Reuben

While we are on the subject of spiders. Isn't there an urban legend/myth that we consume on average 2-4 spiders a year while we sleep at night?

By the way, like others have said. Have it looked at right away if you can!!

Sounds like a common Iranian Flip Flop Bottleneck Spider bite.



Don't read WebMD unless you are on the phone with 911. You may have only 40 minutes to live, after your online diagnosis.

You guys have me scratching myself all over now....Sounds like a spider bite

10 minutes with a doctor with a fair knowledge of insect bites is worth 10,000 replies to this thread. At the very least they can start you on a antihistamine or mild steroid or something to handle the swelling or prevent more.

Hay! I thought what ever happens at Johnson Creek Stays at Johnson Creek!

Thanks for the concern guys,
I went to see the doctor, they ran some testes and said that I had HAGS, Herpes, Aids, Gonorrhea and syphilis, not to worry though, they have a special diet for me, pancakes and pizza,?????? Why pancakes and pizza? It’s the only thing that will fit under the door.
All kidding aside, I went to the doctor and they don’t know what is going on, they gave me several scripts, the shot gun approach. And sent me on my way. Well let’s see what happens. So far it has not killed me, but then it is not through with me yet. I think it may be a kissing bug or a spider, however I have been bitten by what they think was a Brown Recluse, took days to develop and left a huge hole in my hand, at one point I thought that I was going to lose some digits. Thanks for the concern and the grins, In spite of this Johnson Creek was Awesome my friend and I had a great time, and I am already looking forward to next year.
A heartfelt thanks to all that made It happen, Outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TomKatz wrote:Hay! I thought what ever happens at Johnson Creek Stays at Johnson Creek!

There is a sign above the bar in Council that says "What happens in Yellowpine gets home before you do."