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Old guy story subforum

Near misses, close calls, and lessons learned the hard way. Share with others so that they might avoid the same mistakes.
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OK, reading the gyro thread had me searching the site, and I found this old one.

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mtv wrote:Or needle ball and airspeed. I never had a turn coordinator give up, but it happens. Cold is hard on everything and everybody. -40 in a Cub all day is brutal, especially cause you dont see much country..... :D :x


Oh yeah they fail, and they're really sneaky how they do it. Dangerous sneaky.

I was flying a Sled into Kivalina (kinda like, "This one time, at band camp...") Winter morning, colder than shit, like -35 to -40 cold, low overcast and lots of freezing fog along the coast. Flyable, but just a really shitty day. I came over the hills from Noatak, and dropped down and made ground contact a few miles east of the village to set my altimeter and work my way in. I had maybe 100 foot of ceiling and a mile vis was a great big lie.

I found the airstrip OK, but my angle was off, and as I crossed the end of the runway I couldn't line up well enough to turn and land. So, like I'd done hundreds of times before, I crossed the strip, which sits right on the water's edge along the Chukchi Sea, and planned on a short climb and a couple of timed turns in the soup to line me up better for a landing.

As soon as I crossed the shoreline and out onto the pack ice I knew I was in big trouble. Visibility was nil, which was a non-event as we did this every day on the gauges, and it was just how we flew. But as soon as I made the transition from ground contact to an instrument scan, I knew something wasn't right. Instant adrenaline burn in the pit of the stomach, and a huge "Oh Shit" feeling.

Took about a second to find out why I was messed up. Attitude indicator said I was in a climbing turn, and the turn-coordinator was straight up and down. No red flags showing, and vacuum gauge was normal. All while in the fog, a few feet over the frozen ocean, moving at 100 MPH, and I knew if I didn't figure it out real quick, I was going to splatter myself in just a second or two.

Well, figure it out I did. Attitude Indicator, DG, and compass all said I was turning, so I figured it was three-to-one on who was lying to me. So I covered up the turn-coordinator, and finished my landing as usual. When I got back to Kotz we pulled the gauge, and it wasn't till we shook it, that the red flag would drop. Musta been some moisture in there that froze and locked it up.

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Holy shit!
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Great stories. Contact, you are a good writer and have me wanting to hear more about "bloody burt".

Gump, that is scary shit man!
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John Bartlett, Apache 21 in Apache Troop 1/9th Air Cav November 1969 to November 1970, didn't make the last reunion in August of this year. He had died of a heart attack this spring. He was a little ham fisted as a pilot, but he was a great story teller and a good man. He was showing me, "where some bad guys are" 12 Nov 70 when we were shot down in a Cobra.
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External Loads......What a great idea #-o

Sometime in the early 1980s, I was stationed in Kodiak, Alaska with the US Fish & Wildlife Service. My assigned aircraft were a Super Cub on EDO 2000 floats and wheels in the winter, and a DHC 2 Mk I Beaver on Bristol 4580 amphibious floats.

While our offices were located in the city of Kodiak, on the northeast end of the island of Kodiak, we also maintained a field camp on Camp Island, located in approximately the middle of Karluk Lake, nearer the southwest end of the island. The weather in town was often lower than on the south end of the island, so we pretty regularly climbed in one of the airplanes during good weather in town and flew to Camp Island to work out of there for several days, while the weather in Kodiak was sucko.....

Getting "stuff" to Camp Island was part of the Beaver's (N765) job. Each spring, our 50 foot motor vessel was loaded with 70 barrels of avgas and jet fuel and 25 or 30 100 pound propane cylinders, and made the run to Larsen Bay. I'd meet the boat in Larsen Bay with 765 and spend two days making the ten minute transit from Larsen Bay to Camp Island with loads of three barrels of fuel or six or so cylinders of propane. A workout those two days.

But, this particular summer, the boss decided that our cabin at Camp Island needed some maintenance. So, a significant pile of lumber and other supplies began to appear in the WW II bomber revetment the Beaver lived in when not working at Kodiak State Airport. Most of that stuff was far too large to fit inside the airplane, so most of it traveled to Camp Island as an external load, secured to the floats of the airplane with cargo straps tied to the floats.

External loads in Alaska for years have been permitted by an Alaska specific policy from the FAA. Get your mechanic to prepare a form 337 and submit an application, and the FAA would, in due course provide a new, pink restricted category airworthiness certificate. Whilst carrying external loads, the pink certificate was to be in effect, otherwise, the standard airworthiness certificate replaced it in the little plastic certificate holder in the plane. Simple......sorta.

Now, by this point in my career, I'd carried several thousand pounds of "stuff" externally, most of it on that Beaver, so this wasn't a huge deal. Any day the weather permitted, and I didn't have more important flying to do, I'd strap a load of lumber onto the floats of N765 and off we'd go to Camp Island. And the pile of "stuff" got smaller. But, there were a couple of items in that pile that gave me pause: A full size refrigerator (propane powered, of course) and two sets of metal frame bunk beds, ala military surplus......the kinds with the squiggly metal springs, woven between angle iron frames. Since procrastination is a finely honed skill set I've developed, I put those loads off till the last. But, eventually, all that was left of that large pile of "stuff" was that refrigerator and those two sets of bunk beds....neither of which fit through the door of the Beaver.....I tried, several times.

Well, the refrigerator seemed straightforward. I pulled both rear doors off the Beaver, got some help to slide that refrigerator into the back of the plane, slid it aft till it extended out both sides of the fuselage equally, and strapped it down....thoroughly. It stuck out both sides equally.....I figured it'd be a windy flight but what the heck. And, it turns out it flew like a Beaver. No sweat.

Now, all that was left was the bunk beds. I didn't like the looks of those things. I called Jerry Lawhorne, who was our Chief of Maintenance (and a high time Beaver pilot as well) and asked him if he'd ever carried bed frames on a plane. He responded in the affirmative. I asked how they flew, and his response was classic Lawhorne: "Well, you might try one first, and see how you like it.".

So, next day was beautiful. Procrastination bumped up against reality.....Show Time. I'm strapping one of the bed frames onto the vertical struts of the Beaver, and thinking....."jeeze, I've got this great big airplane with nothing in it but gas, and I'm going to fly it to the other end of the island with just this 40 pound load???? So, I strapped the other set of springs on the other side.

I fired up and taxied to the departure end of runway 28, which looks right at Buskin Pass, the normal passage to the west side of the island, and Karluk Lake. Perfect, I thought....no maneuvering needed, and if it turns out to be ugly, I'll turn around and land on 7 or 25.

Takeoff clearance was issued from the tower, and the power came up. The airplane accelerated nicely, as usual, and lifted off quickly. Gear up, and here we go. As I'm passing over Coast Guard housing, I start to retract the flaps.......and suddenly sense a sinking sensation. Hmmmm.....this thing isn't accelerating past about 65 or 70......and it's not climbing. Oh, and it's not interested in flying without a lot of flap deployed. Okay, time to turn around and land again. Except, upon application of control inputs to initiate a turn, the airplane buffets.....like, really hard.....don't go there....damn.

Now, not climbing, not accelerating and not turning, options are somewhat limited. Straight ahead seems like the best option, but the question is: Can I climb enough to clear the pass? Pumping the flaps down a bit, and asking just a bit more than recommended from that beautiful P & W R-985 engine seemed to be the best bet.

Once I'd cleared the high point in the pass, it was all downhill from there.....no more passes enroute to Karluk Lake, via the low route. I concede that I flew the entire trip at METO power (Maximum Except TakeOff) and with takeoff flaps deployed, which combination consumed considerably more fuel than flight planned. But, there were all those barrels of avgas parked on the shore of Camp Island. Upon arrival, and upon getting my knees to stop shaking, I unstrapped those unholy bunk bed frames, performed a quick refuel, and was enroute back to town.

Arriving at home, I was into my second or eighth beer when the phone rang. It was a friend of mine. When I answered, he-- rather bluntly I thought--stated "If you EVER run me off the road on the Buskin Pass Road with that big orange airplane again, I WILL call the FAA." That seemed fair, though a little harsh. The road was, of course, the lowest point in the pass....where else was I supposed to fly that thing? It seemed to me at the time that he had more room to give in that 3/4 ton truck of his.....

The next morning, I called Jerry Lawhorne in Anchorage again. When he answered, I said "Jerry, tell me more about flying those bed springs as an external load." His response was classic Jerry: "You took two, didn't you?" Jerry offered some subtle suggestions, but he always felt that lessons were better learned from actual experience.....after that, I learned to listen carefully to those subtle suggestions.

The afterword: That other set of bed springs eventually made their way to Camp Island on a Coast Guard HH-3 helicopter that happened to be headed that way on a training flight.

I've flown a lot of external loads before and since, but none were as "sporty" as those damn bed springs.

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Holy cow! I know the types of beds you're talking about - spent a few nights on them...

I wouldn't have guessed they'd give a Beaver a fight!

I'd have had 2 or 12 beers when I got back, too.
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MTV heard similar story early in my flying career in 70s with Ward Gay in Turbine Beaver. Second trip they covered bedsprings with tarp. Piece of cake external load. It is all the parasitic drag from Springs. Glad you lived to tell. Same thing flying big Caribou racks external that have lots of points that create drag. Tip there is take garden hose & cut pieces to put over horn points. Amazing difference in drag, and fly ok.
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mtv wrote:The posts that prompted Cameron to start this thread were about a gentleman named Al Fleener. Al was a long time FAA Maintenance Inspector in the Anchorage FSDO. He was also the most practical minded Inspector I ever ran into. He was also a hell of a pilot, even though his left arm had been amputated just below the elbow. And, no, he didn't use any prosthetics to fly.

There is a huge number of field approvals in Alaska with Al's signature on them. If a mechanic went to Al with a proposed field approval and it seemed logical to Al, he signed it. That was it.

I once bought a set of PeeKay B2300 floats for my Cessna 170. After installation, I did a maintenance test flight to check rig, etc. I noted that the airplane was pretty unstable in yaw......in fact it was just about as happy flying sideways as straight ahead. I called Alton, the owner of PeeKay and asked about that, and he noted the floats were approved without a ventral fin, but the STC included a ventral fin as an option. I ordered one from Alton. Then I actually read the STC......and I noted that it was signed off by.....Al Fleener.

That brought a big smile to my face......Al had the philosophy that, while the airplane was a little unstable in yaw, it was in fact the pilot's job to actually fly the airplane.....and the airplane was fully equipped with rudder pedals. Install a fin if you'd like, but.....

As the FAA management became more and more "field approval averse", Al's willingness to field approve modifications that made sense drew some ire from management. Nevertheless, Al continued to sign field approvals that seemed logical.

Al retired from the FAA quite a few years ago. But, so many mechanics and pilots who knew him still recall fondly his friendly "get it done" attitude, and his willingness to share his vast knowledge of what works and what doesn't, especially to those of us who were getting started in our flying careers.

There were and still are great people in aviation. I've been fortunate to know some of those folks, and been blessed to have some of them as mentors. Al was one of those, no doubt.

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Just saw the news in another post. I wish I'd have gotten to meet Al.

Tailwinds to a great man.
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