By Luna, a very reputable name in all things e powered, my supplier of choice for all my ebike stuff. They are US based, so you're not dealing with some unknown in China. Heavy at 65 lbs, but very small when folded, with a QUALITY and very large battery, if don't want to make the evening news. A quality battery with an equally good BMS (battery management system) is what you want, this has it.

https://electricbike-blog.com/2016/11/2 ... deathwish/

Saw this electric motorcycle on Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... -your-home

It's hard to keep up with the frenetic development pace of two wheeled electric machines, I at least had not seen this thing. Wow is it ugly.......and expensive. Not worth it, and carrying enough batteries on the bike to even briefly power a home is a practical conundrum. I mean, if it could power the home for any length of time, that'd tell me you were carrying way too many batteries around the rest of the time when riding the thing. A partially discharged monster battery is just so much dead weight, at least with our aircraft when we deplete the fuel source, it goes away weight wise. Good find Marty!

I have always been interested in getting an electric bike. It's just that it is a low priority at the moment due to other more pressing needs.

Anyway, given the amazing pace of development in this field, it would be great to see a thread (or even a what do you call it " Knowledge Piece" ? ) on the current status of electric bikes in 2017. The emphasis of course being bikes that can be stuffed in the back of a 172, 182, 180, etc.

Also, I am sure there are different options depending on what you want to spend. There are thin-wallet and thick-wallet aviators here, and their buying options probably don't overlap much.

3 cubic acres of cash in that money bin (Good Barksian Scrooge reference

I've been looking at this for a last mile option:

https://www.amazon.com/BRAND-Smart-Urban-Lithium-Scooter/dp/B01JJ6VV3U/ref=pd_sim_sbs_468_11?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PERPPQCXNSFGZEFF9WJH

12" wheels for less than smooth terrain, 25 lb weight, regenerative braking, folds and beats a long walk. Sure not a 35 mph beast but I'm not in that big a hurry any more.

I don't know if this is a problem on my end or BCP's website, but when I clicked on the Bloomberg link posted by 180Marty, I got a "red screen" warning from MacAfee, followed by a rather bizarrely crude porn site , when I closed that I got message saying my computer has been blocked by Microsoft, please call this number and give us your credit card info. Anyone else find this problem?

Denali wrote:I have always been interested in getting an electric bike. It's just that it is a low priority at the moment due to other more pressing needs.

Anyway, given the amazing pace of development in this field, it would be great to see a thread (or even a what do you call it " Knowledge Piece" ? ) on the current status of electric bikes in 2017. The emphasis of course being bikes that can be stuffed in the back of a 172, 182, 180, etc.

Also, I am sure there are different options depending on what you want to spend. There are thin-wallet and thick-wallet aviators here, and their buying options probably don't overlap much.

I did one a while back, and need to post an update. I've been so busy riding and flying (just what I needed, another hobby), I have not taken the time. ANY definitive article an electric bikes will be out of date by the time it is posted, but to sum up: the single most important thing is name brand cells in the battery, Panasonic and Samsung are two of the respected quality cells that along with a quality BMS (battery management system) make for a safe as possible battery, and also good performance and long life. If your electric vehicle supplier glosses over or doesn't know the name brand and type of the individual cells that comprise the battery, shop elsewhere.

The scooter DeltaRomeo references is a good example as to what to AVOID, The fact they do not specify what cells they use tell me: Chinese crap. And, be aware of cheap Chinese cells that are counterfeit! Yeah, there is a booming business in cheap sub standard cells being rebranded and sold as something they are not. The best and about only way to get way to get good safe product is to deal with a reputable US BASED supplier, not some Alibaba or unknown outfit. That's why I mentioned the Luna scooter, it's the real deal and is supplied with known and quality components. As are all their bikes, sure the bikes themselves are Chinese supplied, but not the batteries. Luna is my and many others preferred supplier of all things electric, best prices (by far) and quality gear from a US based outfit, who ride what they sell and are enthusiasts first and foremost! https://lunacycle.com

Rear hub drives are OK, just, for riding around town, if you want to ride steep trail, you want a mid drive system. Mid drive for me, they also are balanced better, you can change a flat on the rear easier, and thanks to the motor working through the bikes gearing (unlike the hub drives, which are one speed) you can go slower and faster. My BBSHD equipped Montague folder I converted (a much better bang for the buck plus better performance then most store bought ready to ride bikes) to an ebike is approaching 1,000 miles of use, has been over 10K (riding, and while flying....) and 35+ MPH on city streets, and up trails so steep I am scared to ride back down them. It's the single best thing I've added to my little flying operation since the Airstreaks. Having a fun way to get around once landed is a real game changer. I'll post some more on the bike thread I started a while back, later.

Yesterday, a 1200' climb up to the ski area behind my place, to pick up my season pass. It's great having something else to do when the WX is crappy!

I don't know if this is a problem on my end or BCP's website, but when I clicked on the Bloomberg link posted by 180Marty, I got a "red screen" warning from MacAfee,

That's interesting, I just clicked it again and went right to the Bloomberg article. Sorry if I caused a problem for you.

Not a problem for me, just hope BCP.org didn't get hacked.

Good to know stuff on the bikes and scooters. Went to the luna cycle site and they do have reasonable pricing on their products.