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Owyhee Airstrips to ReOpen???

With your help, it just might happen.

Hello Back Country Pilots!

Have you personally flown in and out of any of the airstrips along the Owyhee River in Idaho and Oregon anytime before they were closed? If so, Bill Miller from the Idaho Aviation Association would like to hear from you.

Bill would like to know the following information if your interested in helping to reopen some of the airstrips that were closed and even possibly build new airstrips near the "Scenic River" boundary.
1. Pilot name and home base of your aircraft
2. Name of the airstrip you visited. If you do not know the name, Lat & Lon would be helpful
3. When and how often did you visit the airstrip
4. Any comments and info to offer?
5. If the airstrips were reopened and or new airstrips were built, would you make use of them? If so, how often?

You can forward the above information directly to Bill Miller at [email protected]

Or, you can PM me and I'll forward you information to Bill. Any comments on this thread will be great, too. I plan to forward a link to this thread to Bill, too.

It would be great to hear from as many pilots as possible [-o< Bill has been working very close with the Vale District BLM office and sounds like the talks are moving forward. But very slowly. It may pick up steam if we all get involved :D Thank you for your help!! Pat
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Re: Owyhee River Airstrips Campaign to ReOpen???

Here's a couple of previous threads about the airstrips along the Owyhee River in Idaho and Oregon

http://www.backcountrypilot.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5746

http://www.backcountrypilot.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8827
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Re: Owyhee River Airstrips Campaign to ReOpen!

I am happy to see some movement on this topic. The airstrips in the Owyhee region have been high on my list of places to visit for a long time that is until word of the closures came about.

As a resident of Central Oregon (KRDM) it is possible to travel to these airstrips in about an hour and a half via small airplane. What an opportunity! There is nothing like flying in for a day of hiking to take pictures, or camping with family and friends, or being able to hunt and fish all while traveling in a way that has one of the least impacts on the environment all made possible by remote airstrip access.

Unfortunately recent trends seem to be that many Oregon pilots have to travel to states that recognize the value of aviation in order to enjoy these experiences. I would love to see that turn around where pilots from other states travel here for that enjoyment and consequently buy fuel and food in our state!

I applaud the effort to keep these strips open as one of the best ways to experience Oregon's splendor! It's the right thing to do.

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I've never been to any of the strips on the Owyhee River but I hope they are re-opened some day. I would love to fly in there with the 170.
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I myself have used only the two airstrip between Owyhee State and Pinnacle Ranch. I believe they are called No Shit North and No Shit South. I've probably been in and out of them a half dozen times before they were closed by the BLM. If the BLM were to open these airstrips back up along with Pinnacle and others, I would use them on an almost weekly basis. These are great airstrips that are only 30-45 minutes from the Boise area. Using the plane to access this area would be a lot less impact than my 4x4 pick up truck and about 4-6 hours less time traveled.

I would like to also mention that during rafting and hunting season, I am a very cautious and respectful aviator towards these outdoor users (and any other outdoor user) and try my best to navigate around or away from them so they can enjoy the great outdoors themselves. Again, the impact from the airplanes are far less than the ATV's and 4x4 vehicles that are still allowed to use most of the existing trials today. But, don't get me wrong. I believe ATV, snowmobile, motorcycle, and 4x4 vehicle users should still have every right to continue using all of the existing trails and roads in the "Wilderness" "Wilderness Study Area" and along the "Scenic River Boundary".

It would also be great to see a few more airstrips built along the Owyhee River area that would be perhaps outside of the "Scenic River Boundary". There are some great spots that would be ideal to build on a bluff or ridge-top for pilots to fly in and enjoy the magnificent views the Owyhee River and canyons provide.

I strongly believe that us aviators and people using ATV's, motorcycles, snowmobiles, 4 wheel drive vehicles and other forms of legal vehicles also have a right to have a voice in the decision making process of opening and closing publicly owned land. Not just special interest groups that have their own agenda's.

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I have been into most of the strips along the Owyhee River. That whole area is really a paradise for backcountry pilots. It is just a shame that there are any limitations on it's use for aircraft. From my experience, the pilots and aircraft do absolutely nothing to harm that area. When the pilot leaves and is gone, there are absolutely no signs that he has ever been there. Unlike the fourwheeler and motorcycle with their tracks all throughout the area, or the rafter, fisherman and hunter with their campsites and two track roads in and out of just about everywhere, the pilot and his aircraft have virtually no downside.

It is a unique area and offers flying opportunities and scenes that can be found nowhere else in the world. All, or at the very least, most, of this area should be completely open to aircraft use. For economic development of the Boise area airports and to ensure diverse public land usage, flying and landing in the Owyhee River area should definitely be encouraged by all the various governing agencies. =D>
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Here's some more write up involving this issue. Thanks for reading and your support! I got this quote from this link: http://www.idahoaviation.com/images/usercontent/December%202011%20Flyline%20online.pdf

Government Affairs
Bill Miller

Owyhee River Airstrips
IAA is working with the Oregon Pilots Association, the
IAF, and the RAF to determine how the BLM prepared and
published their Owyhee River Wild and Scenic River Plan
without the aviation community knowing about it. The
Plan, approved in 1993, has an Action statement saying:
“Protect the outstandingly remarkable values of the river
corridors from the impacts of aircraft use, by prohibiting
aircraft landings.” No mention was made in the Plan‘s
background reports of any input from pilots, aviation
organizations, or the Oregon or Idaho Aeronautics
departments.
In last month‘s Flyline (November 2011), IAA member
DuWaine Emmons reported the closure of an airstrip
commonly known as Pinnacle Ranch. That airstrip was Xed
closed and littered with small boulders. At an October
14 meeting with the BLM, our team requested removal of
those hazardous boulders. GOOD NEWS FLASH: On
November 18, the Vale Region BLM Manager reported to
me “…the rocks on the Pinnacle airstrip have been
removed so it could be used for emergencies.” We
requested this from the BLM, and they took action—a very
good sign that we can work cooperatively on this matter. I
now ask pilots not break our trust with the BLM, and
continue to regard the Owyhee closures as still valid until
we have a few meetings to work on some remedies aimed
at re-opening some airstrips. We‘ll ask questions, such as
Why is a Wild/Scenic River corridor being treated as if it
were Wilderness? Who were the aviation representatives
involved in developing the Plan? What data supports the
statement claiming aviation‘s adverse impact? And more.
We believe some oversights were made in the BLM‘s
public involvement process, and if so, we‘ll have a chance
to re-evaluate airstrip status in the Owyhee River corridor.
We‘re now researching the history of aircraft landings in
or along the Owyhee Canyon, and have already heard
from some pilots. We want to hear more, and urge you to
report anything that will help us get these airstrips
reconsidered. Yes, this is a complex process, and will take
time, but our aviation organizations are working together
and expect to make some gains. We will keep you
informed of progress.
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Re: Owyhee Airstrips to ReOpen???

I really look forward to seeing how this plays out - I have promised my father a camping trip into Owyhee so I hope this gets straightened... is Owyhee Reservoir State Airport still open in the list of these closures? Oregon Dept of Aviation imply that it is on their website....
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crazedpilot wrote:I really look forward to seeing how this plays out - I have promised my father a camping trip into Owyhee so I hope this gets straightened... is Owyhee Reservoir State Airport still open in the list of these closures? Oregon Dept of Aviation imply that it is on their website....


Yes. Owyhee State is Open.
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We need to get the names and Lat Lon for all the strips. I know many of us have been there and don't have this info. If we are to write letters we need this info. If you got this lets get it posted. I'm looking for some now.

Good day...Rob
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OWYHEE AIRSTRIPS UPDATE 20 DECEMBER:
In 1984 Congress designated The Owyhee River as a wild river under the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act. In 1993 the BLM (Vale District) published their Resource Management Plan for the Wild Owyhee River, and in it banned aircraft landings on some historic airfields. Many of you have volunteered to help us collect usage history on the Owyhee River airstrips, and several of you have already responded to our call, and have provided some very useful information. Thank you!

We have asked the BLM for documents pertaining to their developing the Management plan. We believe aviation users were not invited to the hearings and planning sessions, and that the BLM made their decision to ban landings without input from pilots or aviation organizations. We are also collecting information from BLM regulations to determine if they can actually ban landings in a ‘Wild River’ corridor--which is a different animal than a ‘Wilderness Area.’

The BLM has just determined that our request for documents under the Freedom of Information Act can be supplied without charge, and they are working now to provide answers to our questions. Furthermore, the Vale District office has, at our request, recently removed the obstructing boulders off the closed ‘Pinnacle Ranch’ airstrip (as it’s popularly called). As the documents become available, as more pilots report their history of using the Owyhee airstrips, and as we evaluate BLM regulations, we will be positioned to meet again with the BLM and ask for some relief from the closures. We believe the closures were incorrect, and also improper because of not having any aviators at the planning table when the 1993 plan was being prepared. Our best case will be helped by establishing the fact that there was much usage of the airfields, particularly before and up to 1993. Our next meeting with the BLM will be some time after the first of 2012, but it will take time. Time well spent to do the job right, I believe.

Thanks for your help with this important airstrip re-opening project. Encourage your pilot friends to report to me—in an e-mail is perfectly fine. Let us know: their name, address, landing sites and dates, how often they landed, and their recreational usage of the Owyhee River. This is especially important, for the BLM has to provide recreational opportunities along the River, and showing that access by aircraft allows us pilots to recreate is an important argument for re-opening the airfields. Here is an excerpt from a recent well-written report:
”...about thirty years ago I was flying up to the managed airstrips along the Owyhee, especially at the "Hole-in-the-Wall" and Birch Creek, as well as the strip at the start of the Owyhee lake and the graded airstrip downstream from the
Birch Creek airstrip. I used to be going in and out on a fairly frequent basis. Then, one day in the fall about 15 years ago or so the airstrips at Birch Creek and the Hole-in-the-Wall were closed! Not x-ed off, just "stuff" put on the strips with no notification. Indeed, the one at Birch Creek is
still listed as a developed and registered airstrip! I thought they were put that way to be developed, but they were never re-opened and from what I know it was the BLM that shut them down on their own. I certainly to this date have had no explanation!”

If you have already provided your input—thanks; if not, please do so before much longer. Obviously this is a ‘bulk’ letter, and I apologize for that.
On behalf of the Idaho Aviation Association, Idaho Aviation Foundation, the Oregon Pilots Association, and the Recreational Aviation Foundation,

Bill Miller
VP, Governmental Affairs
Idaho Aviation Association
5625 W Beachfront Ln.
Boise ID 83703
208 853-8585; 208 409-5713

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If you have not joined any of these organizations please consider doing so.

Cheers...Rob
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Re: Owyhee Airstrips to ReOpen???

I will be working with the Oregon and Idaho Pilots Assoc. on this project when I get back down to Vale. I will try to get some Long & Lat. for some of these strips.
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Re: Owyhee Airstrips to ReOpen???

Bringing back a dead thread as I’m new here. Did any of these open up? Google maps shows the south strip with X’s. The north one looks ok. What are the legalities of landing in the Owyhee. Looks like Trent Palmer just posted a video doing some landings in there.
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Thanks for resurrecting this topic.

I am interested to hear what happened to this effort. Unfortunately, I am sure the BLM is more about closing strips than opening or reopening new ones.

Not sure if you are aware that a few power happy BLM rangers have been trying to close Horseshoe on the lower Deschutes. They have been known to raft down and put rocks out on the runway. Last spring my dad and I camped there, picked up some trash and had a really nice time. Google maps shows there are X’s on the runway but there are also three planes parked there…

Hopefully we can keep Horseshoe from being “removed” Sure do appreciate all that the IAA and the RAF are doing to keep the politicians from closing more strips.

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