http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=12759732 and http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12769266

Sad story here. I know we have some other Park Rangers in the group.

I always pay special attention to airplane accidents in this region. I try to figure out what went wrong and how I can avoid doing the same. I've seen an accident trend this time of year. People out scouting wildlife for upcoming hunts meet their fate in the hills or foothils. I can recall 5 or 6 of these accidents in the last few years. Density altitude is a little less of a factor in October but I imagine a pilot and passenger both having their eyes peeled looking outside the plane at/for wildlife and airspeed bleeds off, wing dips, stall/spin??? Lots of box canyon issues with this type of flying too.

Your thoughts?

SixTwoLeemer wrote:Your thoughts?

My thoughts are that I have spent too much time in the last year zipping emotional and actual body bags after stupid crashes, all of which were likely caused by the same two or three mistakes over and over again.

Laurie and I trained for our private certificates together back in the early 2000's, in addition to working together. N8437A is in my logbook plenty of times from that era, I shared expenses with her after she bought it to train in. I flew it all over the Four Corners and Nevada, with and without Laurie.

Really shitty to have to see it buckled up on the front page of the Utah newspapers, knowing that she and Brent are still inside waiting to be extricated. No one knows yet what happened but one could guess.

If any of you know Tug Kangus and want to give him a call I know he would appreciate it. He was Laurie's CFI, A&P and friend and this must have hit him hard. I haven't been able to get in touch with him yet.

damn, looks like a bad loss...grim reminder to always be ready to stuff it somewhere...sorry for their families loss...

Truly sad indeed. From the photo's, I'd say that a couple of obviously fine young officers have gone west too soon. My sincerest condolences to all involved.

RIP, and condolences to friends and family.

mtv wrote:If you folks want to discuss this topic, how about splitting this off to another thread?

Two people lost their lives in an aircraft accident. Most likely, they were engaged in maneuvering flight. It really makes little difference specifically what they were looking at, and I suspect nobody in officialdom is apt to pursue a violation on a couple of people who are now deceased.

This is yet another tragic loss. Be careful out there people. Maneuvering flight is more complex than most pilots realize, and this is yet another example of just how mean it can get.

RIP

MTV

x2

Richard- Deepest condolences.

-DP

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Hunting/flying discussion split to new topic. -Z

mtv wrote:
This is yet another tragic loss. Be careful out there people. Maneuvering flight is more complex than most pilots realize, and this is yet another example of just how mean it can get.

RIP

MTV

x3

My deepest condolences to all who loved them

SixTwoLeemer wrote:http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=12759732 and http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12769266

Sad story here. I know we have some other Park Rangers in the group.

I always pay special attention to airplane accidents in this region. I try to figure out what went wrong and how I can avoid doing the same. I've seen an accident trend this time of year. People out scouting wildlife for upcoming hunts meet their fate in the hills or foothils. I can recall 5 or 6 of these accidents in the last few years. Density altitude is a little less of a factor in October but I imagine a pilot and passenger both having their eyes peeled looking outside the plane at/for wildlife and airspeed bleeds off, wing dips, stall/spin??? Lots of box canyon issues with this type of flying too.

Your thoughts?

I don't have much to contribute to the forum but I thought I might could add something. My uncle was killed in the Brooks Range back in 1995. He was a pilot and a Major in the Air Force with the 962nd out of Elmendorf. He had just sold his share of a 172 and had chartered a flight out. He put his trust in a local pilot's hands and flew out of the camp in a Piper Cub. While trying to spot sheep the pilot flew into a box canyon. The weather was perfect and visibility was great. They collided with terrain trying to turn out and both were killed on impact. My uncle had 1000's of hours all over the world, but one mistake cost him his life. Had he known the area and had been the PIC I dont know if it would have happened, maybe so, maybe not. It was still a senseless death that could have been avoided though.

My prayer's go out to the family and friends of those who were lost in the recent accident.