Some carry a generator, some bring a six pack. The well planned all night party becomes a closed loop of energy production and demand as well as lighting the third world.

http://en.avaaz.org/1077/girls-invent-u ... -generator

Smart girls. Nothing quite like a good piss.

An actual constructive use for beer!

Power FROM the people!
lc

GREAT IDEA!

mountainmatt wrote:Smart girls. Nothing quite like a good piss.

If it is a full service generator with a happy ending I want one as long it doesn't shock too bad.

Sorry, I call bullshit. They did not invent that process. I will be very very surprised to be wrong.
Anyway... good idea if it runs. Or dribbles...

I think they would get a longer run time on the generator if they used whiskey pee....plus the party is often livelier?

I think the military was working on a simpler system to charge batteries a few years ago.....

lc

flightlogic wrote:Sorry, I call bullshit. They did not invent that process. I will be very very surprised to be wrong.
Anyway... good idea if it runs. Or dribbles...

Although I am not a chemistry type guy, I agree with you. Not only they didn't invent the process, I would bet it is a net loser in energy.

Cracking urine to capture hydrogen is going to take a lot of electricity for the electrolyte cells more then they will capture by using the hydrogen to run a Chinese generator.

Sig220 wrote:

flightlogic wrote:Sorry, I call bullshit. They did not invent that process. I will be very very surprised to be wrong.
Anyway... good idea if it runs. Or dribbles...

Although I am not a chemistry type guy, I agree with you. Not only they didn't invent the process, I would bet it is a net loser in energy.

Cracking urine to capture hydrogen is going to take a lot of electricity for the electrolyte cells more then they will capture by using the hydrogen to run a Chinese generator.

I think the girls did not invent so much as re-construct from info found on the internet. The science is sound. There are several of these units attached to local semis. http://www.hfcletter.com/issues/XX_12/s ... 533-1.html

Less electrical energy is needed for splitting hydrogen from H2O than is released in the combustion of hydrogen inside the engine.

Science teachers all over the world run little digital clocks on lemons, salt water etc. Micro amps needed. That generator they showed in the photo was just bullshit. It aint running on pee.
Just wait a week and see the press updates. Some egg will be on a few faces.
Shame it will not generate the desired positive outcome for the school girls in Africa. At least they had their moment of fame.

Loading down the truck alternator costs fuel, wonder how many amps it requires? Off gridders have played with hydrogen production for some time as a way to use excess power. Hasn't really caught on much so far anyway.

I feel better about all the energy bombs I've dropped on Nevada and Utah.

dirtstrip wrote:

Sig220 wrote:

flightlogic wrote:Sorry, I call bullshit. They did not invent that process. I will be very very surprised to be wrong.
Anyway... good idea if it runs. Or dribbles...

Although I am not a chemistry type guy, I agree with you. Not only they didn't invent the process, I would bet it is a net loser in energy.

Cracking urine to capture hydrogen is going to take a lot of electricity for the electrolyte cells more then they will capture by using the hydrogen to run a Chinese generator.

I think the girls did not invent so much as re-construct from info found on the internet. The science is sound. There are several of these units attached to local semis. http://www.hfcletter.com/issues/XX_12/s ... 533-1.html

Less electrical energy is needed for splitting hydrogen from H2O than is released in the combustion of hydrogen inside the engine.

Hi Dirt!!

Back to class for you!! That link referenced is to a 2005 article. You know that if we could crack H2o by using LESS energy then would be produced we would not be using oil!! You can't afterall "create" energy. Against Fudruckers rule of conservation and all. Those dang magnets to increase fuel mileage don't work either. Have a good night!!

The electrical energy used to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen does not "create" the energy in the hydrogen. It only separates it from the oxygen atom so it can be burned. Like the electrical energy passing thru a spark plug does not create the energy contained in the gasoline, it is only the catalyst that allows the reaction to take place. Fudrucker was not violated.

Good morning Dirtstrip!!

Fudrucker says you cannot create energy........what that means is that if a gallon of oil had 100 pounds of energy, you cannot be use it to produce 125 pounds of energy in another form.

It takes a bunch of electrical energy to crack water into hydrogen and Oxygen. This energy is used to break the bonds between the hydrogen and oxygen is EQUAL to the energy given off when they combine during the burning process........in a 100% efficient system. A normal internal combustion engine is about 30% efficient in converting heat to mechanical power. Remember how hot your radiator gets?? That is energy from combustion going to waste.

You don't drive a battery powered car do you?

Just some more information to fog up the brains.....

Urine is approximately 95% water, the other 5% is urea, chloride, sodium, potassium and creatinine and several other things.

Urea has the highest concentration of hydrogen (H2NCONH2) but there is not much in urine to really matter it appears.

So we are back down to cracking water to capture the hydrogen which as far as energy efficiency is a non starter.

To my simple mind, it would be more efficient to take the human waste and other animal waste and capture the methane (CH4) that is released through natural chemical reaction and use it for fuel. Might be a little explosive, but it seems that someone was doing this in places like the backwoods of India or Tibet to fuel cooking stoves or lights or something......