Ok here is the video of the approach into Minam Lodge. Thanks Zane for the help. Let me know how it works.

http://www.vimeo.com/938494

Hey, there are pilots who do both Bush and Aerobatic.

Now, if I can just fit 35s on a Sooky...........................

GumpAir wrote:

flyer wrote:The aerobatic pilots are also a part of the brotherhood/sisterhood. I do not want to hear any more negative stuff about them. They do precision flying that most of us could never do. Your negative remarks shows some egotism on your part. They share the same passion of flying and planes.

flyer

I wasn't talking about aerobatic pilots in general. I was speaking about specific people that I know personally. They are of the "Hey you all, watch this" variety. Noise and being the center of attention is their main focus in most things they do. Same as some bush flyers I know, who care more for the bragging rights than they do the actual flying in to the backcountry.

The "Brotherhood" is full of all kinds of people. Some good, some bad, and a few just a tad different.

Gump

Hi all... traveling at the moment and not the time to respond as detailed as I'd like to, but ~ interesting commentary. Appreciate it; and what I was hoping for ... thank you.

I have to say that the aerobatic pilots I've interviewed so far (3...one to go) are a fascinating mix; 1 is an active show pilot - not egotistical but extremely confident and disciplined.

The other two ...... have both actively quit flying aerobatics; although one still teaches occasionally. Both were competitive. Why did they quit? Too many friends have died. One has a son that factored into the decision; the other decided he's done all of the envelope pushing he needs to do. Loved it while they were doing; age and changed perspective made them decide it was time to give it up.

Amongst themselves too - and I found this interesting - they would warn each other about an aerobatic pilot where, as you touched on here, ego was motivating more than love of the doing and the challenge; "don't get close". And they meant it, for the reason you can guess I'm sure ~ in their minds it was only a matter of time before their ego did them in.

And the friends that they've lost weren't egotistical; what does that say? It says that it's obviously a terribly dangerous sport. But in their minds ... when they were contemplating risk from their mindset as disciplined, non-egotistical professionals?

Mountain flying ~ seemed to have more of an "uncontrollable" risk factor ~ than aerobatics.

I find that fascinating.

pif_sonic wrote:Flywriter,

I have a great video that might give you perspective on Mt flying. I was going to Minam Lodge for breakfast. My wife was taking the video of the long approach. Just as I was at the end of the strip and to the point where I wanted to touch down there was a horse/mule in a shadow on the runway. I had to adjust my decent and pick a spot a little further down the runway. I over flew the strip to see if there were any animals, i.e. elk, deer, horses on the strip and did not see the horse.

With that in mind I do agree that Mt flying does have its uncontrollable variables. I wish I could post the video but it is about 180 megs. I am not sure how to make it a smaller file. If anyone ahs any ideas let me know.

Great video Wayne.... thanks to you and Zane for posting it; whoa (pardon the pun!) Definately ... adds to my perspective.