[This is split from the Monache Meadows... thread]

zero.one.victor wrote:I've got a pair of (15 year old plus) Forest Service maps of the Sequoia & Inyo Nat'l Forests. I just looked them over & they don't show either one of these strips (Sacatar & Monache). A not very subtle way to try to deny their existence? I would think that they would be included at least for their value as landmarks.

Eric

The Forest Service would rather we all went away and didn't come back. They want the national forests and wilderness areas all to themselves and other bark eaters like the Sierra Club et al. Environmentalists are such rotten stewards of the wilderness, and make no mistake about it, the Forest Service to a very large degree has been taken over by extreme environmentalist wackos.



But, all that being said, the reason those strips aren't on the map is probably because they're private.

Good book: "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton. Kinda paints the whole environmental movement in a bad light, claiming it is more of a money making industry than anything. The book is fiction, but as always is backed up by Crichton's excellent knowledge and research.

I believe that pilots, more than many other users of the backcountry, have the best interest of the environment in mind as we enjoy being in nature like any hiker or granola eater. It's not like we are doing laps around the airstrip, sending roostertails of sod into the air and carving out ruts. But, I have accepted the fact that there is no hobby I can ever be involved in that is totally embraced by everyone. It always seems that my playgrounds are under attack. Now I think I will stick a link to these guys on the site.

Michael Chrichton is da' bomb. He did a great a great speech at Cal Tech about 'consensus science' and it's detrimental effect on creative scientific thought. Looking for a link...ahh, here it is, a good read - [url=http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/speeches_quote04.html]Aliens Cause Global Warming
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Good move on the link to RAF...weeping about Tuweep.

For what it's worth, I've always been a low impact packer and camper. It pisses me off that I always have to come back to civilization with a bunch of other peoples trash in my pack.

I live out in the woods in western Washington ( like Jeff Foxworthy sez, I gotta give directions from "off the end of the paved road...."), and what really pisses me off is litterbugs! It's bad enough to throw trash on the ground in some big, dirty city, but to do it out in the great outdoors is just wrong! The little road I live off of is used by travelers on nearby Hwy 101 as a rest stop-- I don't have a problem with that. But the trouble is that as long as they're stopped there taking a leak, they toss out all their McD's wrappers, latte cups, etc. As a supporter of (responsible) logging I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure that some of the worst culprits are loggers & logtruck drivers going to & from the big timber unit above my property. The mess around the landings after they conclude logging operations ain't all "woody debris" either! I don't mind seeing clearcuts, after all, they'll grown back & be ready for another harvest in 60 years or so-- but the oil jugs, etc are forever if nobody polices them up.
"Leave nothing but your footprints" is a good low-impact policy for more than just camping.

Eric