Portland area guys watch out, "VIP" tfr coming to Porland on Wednesday.

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_9891.html

Center: On the PORTLAND VOR/DME (PDX) 202 degree radial at 2.4 nautical miles. (Latitude: 45º33'51"N, Longitude: 122º38'41"W)
Radius: 30 nautical miles
Altitude: From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL
Effective Date(s):
From July 24, 2012 at 1745 UTC (July 24, 2012 at 1045 PDT)
To July 25, 2012 at 0015 UTC (July 24, 2012 at 1715 PDT)
Area B
Airspace Definition:
Center: On the PORTLAND VOR/DME (PDX) 202 degree radial at 2.4 nautical miles. (Latitude: 45º33'51"N, Longitude: 122º38'41"W)
Radius: 10 nautical miles
Altitude: From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL
Effective Date(s):
From July 24, 2012 at 1745 UTC (July 24, 2012 at 1045 PDT)
To July 25, 2012 at 0015 UTC (July 24, 2012 at 1715 PDT)




Operating Restrictions and Requirements Top
No pilots may operate an aircraft in the areas covered by this NOTAM (except as described).
Except as specified below and/or unless authorized by ATC in consultation with the air traffic security coordinator via the domestic events network (DEN):

A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN THE 10 NMR AREA(S) LISTED ABOVE, KNOWN AS THE INNER CORE(S), ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. COORDINATED AND APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, AIR AMBULANCE AND FIREFIGHTING OPERATIONS MUST RECEIVE APPROVAL PRIOR TO ENTERING THIS AIRSPACE AT 503-493-7580 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND ALL-CARGO CARRIERS OPERATING UNDER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TSA-APPROVED STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAMS/PROCEDURES: AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (AOSSP), FULL ALL-CARGO AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (FACAOSSP), MODEL SECURITY PROGRAM (MSP), TWELVE FIVE STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (TFSSP) ALL CARGO, OR ALL-CARGO INTERNATIONAL SECURITY PROCEDURE (ACISP) AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM 14 CFR PART 139 AIRPORTS.

B. For operations within the airspace between the 10 nmr and 30 nmr area(s) listed above, known as the outer ring(s): All aircraft operating within the outer ring(s) listed above are limited to aircraft arriving or departing local airfields, and workload permitting, ATC may authorize transit operations. Aircraft may not loiter. All aircraft must be on an active IFR or VFR flight plan with a discrete code assigned by an air traffic control (ATC) facility. Aircraft must be squawking the discrete code prior to departure and at all times while in the TFR and must remain in two-way radio communications with ATC.

C. THE FOLLOWING OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED WITHIN THIS TFR: FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, SEAPLANE OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, SIGHTSEEING OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE TEST FLIGHTS, RADIO CONTROLLED MODEL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS, MODEL ROCKETRY, UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS (UAS), AND UTILITY AND PIPELINE SURVEY OPERATIONS.

D. FAA recommends that all aircraft operators check notams frequently for possible changes to this TFR prior to operations within this region.

Not that a VFR plan and squawk code will open the door.

I got a briefing, VFR plan, and squawk code yesterday before leaving to return home near Denver, and all it did was earn me a lot of mentions from approach when I finally got near that it was a Presidential TFR with lots of serious sounding warnings, making it very clear that the outer ring is still verboten to everyone, and I could not transit the edge of the outer ring it to get home. I think the pressure is on the controllers as well, and they'd rather not deal with folks at all under the circumstances, regardless of the ability to let people transit through the outer ring.

Did they refuse you clearance or did you just land and decide to wait till after 6:30 on your own?

Refused.

As it was, the outer ring cut the runway in half (KLMO) by my estimation, and by both Garmins. I was refused direct nav through the outer ring, so I flew an arc all the way around the TFR to KLMO.

The skydiving ops were using the west half end of the runway, and the skydiving Otter pilot reminded me that the east half of the runway was definitely inside the TFR.

I requested VFR nav to landing from Denver Approach, but was refused while even 2 miles from the airport just outside the outer ring, so I landed just outside the ring (and taxied back into the ring to get to the hangar). Den App made it clear they saw me all the way to the ground.

Got the hangar door closed before the F-18's arrived (just kidding, this time).

WOW! That's awesome. Closed half the runway - but left the other half open. That is the craziest shit I've ever heard. I assumed the whole airport was closed - I didn't even think about flying.

Good thing you didn't have to go around!

'Greg

...the F-16's missed you but the Hummers know where to find you.

I was legal.

I just think it's odd there is an alleged process for the outer ring published in the NOTAM, but the requests are simply ignored.

Good luck in Portland.

I had a flight scheduled for several weeks with a friend who is visiting from outside the area. It is his only day to fly so we decided to file a VFR flight plan from SPB as per the TFR.

I will advise if I get refused.

Hurrying to get out of PDX before wingnut gets here. He's supposed to be here at 1115, we are out at 1100. Hope he isn't early!

We just had some presidential TFR's sunday in the San Francisco area. Luckily Rio Vista sits about 5 miles outside of the outer ring and I was able to fly home from Monterey and land with no issue. I love my 496, it showed the locations of all three TFR's in yellow before they went active. At exactly 7pm, just when it was supposed to start, the first TFR turned red as I was about 4 miles outside of it. I was on flight following but never heard the controllers mention anything about the TFR.

Well we went out and braved the TFR and jumped through all the VFR hoops to depart from Scappoose. A friend was visiting from out of town and Tuesday was the only day we had to fly. We were the only VFR aircraft I heard out there except the poor guy being hailed on 121.5 by the Air Force.

Still thinking about sending the White House a bill for the Hobbs time we spent on the ground waiting for all the clearances but soon enough we were off. Our plan was to fly down the Columbia so once we cleared the TFR I tried to cancel flight following and continue on our merry way. However we were instructed we needed to be on the ground somewhere, cancel all our flight plans and then continue. A quick stop at Kelso did the trick and we were off to see the coast.

Was pretty cool to be about the only guys out and about. FSS and the controllers honestly seemed a little surprised to hear from a VFR guy but they were all helpful. Plus the look on the face of the SPB fuel guy was priceless as he probably thought he was watching someone bust the TFR as we lifted off.

fern_hopper wrote:...We were the only VFR aircraft I heard out there except the poor guy being hailed on 121.5 by the Air Force.....

I didn't see anything on the news about any pilots busting the Serattle or Portland TFR's this time. What did you hear on 121.5?
I flew tuesday as well, my airport is 8 or 10 miles NNW of the Seattle TFR boundaries they published so no special procedures required. On my flight home, I wondered if I should have checked again just in case Obama decided to take another trip up to the Boeing plant at Paine Field like he did on the last trip- the TFR for that did cover my airport. No official wingman formed up on me so I guess I was OK.

hotrod150 wrote:

fern_hopper wrote:...We were the only VFR aircraft I heard out there except the poor guy being hailed on 121.5 by the Air Force.....

I didn't see anything on the news about any pilots busting the Serattle or Portland TFR's this time. What did you hear on 121.5?
I flew tuesday as well, my airport is 8 or 10 miles NNW of the Seattle TFR boundaries they published so no special procedures required. On my flight home, I wondered if I should have checked again just in case Obama decided to take another trip up to the Boeing plant at Paine Field like he did on the last trip- the TFR for that did cover my airport. No official wingman formed up on me so I guess I was OK.

While we were waiting for clearance on the ground in PDX we heard the Air Force calling someone on 121.5. Something to the effect of "unidentified aircraft at "coordinates" squawking 1200, heading XXX, alt XXX, speed XXX return to the ground immediately and contact the FAA." We heard them repeat that twice but didn't hear the resolution as PDX approach frequency was busy enough to cover any traffic on 121.5.