Public service, possibly of interest to some BCP types

If anyone is interested in a pimped out 180HP/CS upgraded Cessna 170b, there's one on the Los Angeles Craigslist. I have seen this airplane and it's pretty nice.

Now do not get me wrong, I will never knock a 170. Real nice plane (and I would love to have it) but no matter what you do to a 170, it will never have a trimable horizontal stabilizer like a 180 does. If I was in the market for a cessna tail drager and had 70K, would I even consider a 170. Yes but not for long.

Tim

qmdv wrote: If I was in the market for a cessna tail drager and had 70K, would I even consider a 170. Yes but not for long.

Tim

I'll convert your 182 for a lot less than 70K...

it will never have a trimable horizontal stabilizer

This is exactly why you never see Cessna 170s, Cessna 172s, Cessna 206s, Cessna 140s, Maules, Aeronca Sedans, Avid Flyers, Taylorcrafts, etc in the backcountry.

flattie45 wrote:

it will never have a trimable horizontal stabilizer

This is exactly why you never see Cessna 170s, Cessna 172s, Cessna 206s, Cessna 140s, Maules, Aeronca Sedans, Avid Flyers, Taylorcrafts, etc in the backcountry.

Not at all. I guess I cannot explain it.

tim

qmdv wrote:

flattie45 wrote:

it will never have a trimable horizontal stabilizer

This is exactly why you never see Cessna 170s, Cessna 172s, Cessna 206s, Cessna 140s, Maules, Aeronca Sedans, Avid Flyers, Taylorcrafts, etc in the backcountry.

Not at all. I guess I cannot explain it.

tim

I'd like to see you try to explain

I owned a 170 for many years & love them, but even with a 180 horse it will never be the airplane a C180 is. It isn't so much the trimmable stabilizer (although that's a great feature) as it is the O-470 up front. There's just no substitute for cubic inches.

hotrod150 wrote:I owned a 170 for many years & love them, but even with a 180 horse it will never be the airplane a C180 is. It isn't so much the trimmable stabilizer (although that's a great feature) as it is the O-470 up front. There's just no substitute for cubic inches.

Same here had one for 10 years. Then the 180

flattie45 wrote:

it will never have a trimable horizontal stabilizer

This is exactly why you never see Cessna 170s, Cessna 172s, Cessna 206s, Cessna 140s, Maules, Aeronca Sedans, Avid Flyers, Taylorcrafts, etc in the backcountry.

My old Taylorcraft lives in Fairbanks and the new owner routinely flies it into a 400 foot strip at his cabin, it's been out hunting north of the Brooks Range, etc. I'm hoping the above post is in humor... lots of the airplanes mentioned above are flying in the bush all the time.

My comment was strictly tongue in cheek . My apologies to Tim if it was taken any other way.

Over the years, on a number of forums, I have seen a few comments to the effect that anything other than a trimmable stabilizer is a handicap. Obviously it is a nice feature and certainly helps make the supercubs and 180s what they are. But a good portion of the GA fleet is outfitted with a trim tab.

Getting back to the 170, it is a nice looking one. I think it might have been posted on the Anchorage craigslist as well. It is also listed on Trade-A-Plane with some more pictures and details. Hopefully somebody will be able to pick this one up and get into the air.
-Nate

A Cessna 170 will never be a 180. A 180 will never be a Beaver. A Beaver will never be an Otter. An Otter will never be a DC-3. A DC-3 will never be a J-3. A J-3 will never be a Cessna 170.

There is a place, and a use, and an advantage, for any type of airplane. That ugly little Zenair 701 is looked down upon and laughed at by a lot of people in the PA-18 community, but the 701 will allow you to get in and out of anywhere a Super Cub will go, at 1/3 of the money.

You know, there's a pretty healthy new and used market for a small 4 or 6 cylinder pickup truck. But it will never be an F-350. Until you get to the gas pump, the insurance company, and the mechanic's shop, where an F-350 will never have the advantages of a little 4 cylinder Toyota "toy truck".

EZFlap wrote:A Cessna 170 will never be a 180. A 180 will never be a Beaver. A Beaver will never be an Otter. An Otter will never be a DC-3. A DC-3 will never be a J-3. A J-3 will never be a Cessna 170.

Yeah but, a 182 can become a 180 (well, pretty much)

58Skylane wrote:

EZFlap wrote:A Cessna 170 will never be a 180. A 180 will never be a Beaver. A Beaver will never be an Otter. An Otter will never be a DC-3. A DC-3 will never be a J-3. A J-3 will never be a Cessna 170.

Yeah but, a 182 can become a 180 (well, pretty much)

And a 180 can become a 182

tim

58Skylane wrote:

EZFlap wrote:A Cessna 170 will never be a 180. A 180 will never be a Beaver. A Beaver will never be an Otter. An Otter will never be a DC-3. A DC-3 will never be a J-3. A J-3 will never be a Cessna 170.

Yeah but, a 182 can become a 180 (well, pretty much)

AKA.... 182TW, 181 or as my buddies call mine, bastard child.....but they are all a bunch of bastards