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I bought a flap hadle from some folks on ebay. Was advertised as being for 170/172/180. I got it and I say no way. So I am trying to find out what it is from, hopefully with a little help from you folks. The handle is 13.5" long, from one end(not including the button) to the other end where it is welded to the rest of the mechanism and 1" in diameter. There is a placard on it for flap settings, 0, 5, 10 and 20 degrees. There is also a number on there, 1605021-1. Thanks for any help. Gary
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That part number is a Cessna Part number for a placard, probably the placard that is on the handle.

From the size of the thing, it may be a 120/140 flap handle. Those would have been before Cessna went to the big flaps.

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It's just the handle, right? No ratchet mechanism?

Probably placarded wrong if it's from a 140, since they only had 2 position flaps, right? My 170 flap lever is about 22" long I think.
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Or a 170/170A...for the same reason...

The only parts manual I have is for the 170B, but you might try http://www.micro-tools.com/pdf/cessna/ for the 120/140 and 170/170A parts manuals and see what you can see.
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Thanks for the responses guys. The flap settings were throwing me off. 0,5, 10 and 20. Newer flew a cessna with those choices. I thought 120's didn't have flaps. Did the later ones have flaps? But I did take the lever(no mechanism) out to the hangar this morning and compared it to the picture in my shop manual. Looks identical, so I'm guessin that it is out of a Cessna. It is about an inch and a half shorter which is fine, that was why I ordered one, I wanted to shorten it. I also campared it to the one in my plane and for as much as I can see, it looks the same. Guess I owe them an appology, sort of. Still don't think it came from any 180, but I do think it will work for what I want. Thanks again Gary
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If the length of the handle is correct, it is definitely NOT from a 170, 180 or 185, which all used the same flap handle that is a lot longer.

It could be a 140 handle, but who knows.

The part number is from the Cessna catalog, so it is likely a Cessna part.

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I feel pretty sure that it is a cessna part. I wouldn't think one from another company of plane would be so similar. It is the same length as a 175 flap handle. The flap angles are what is throwing me off. I don't know any cessnas that use that combination. Maybe agwagons? Gary
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I'd bet it's from an early Cessna with small flaps, like the 140. Does anyone know what the flap deflections were on them?


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mtv wrote:I'd bet it's from an early Cessna with small flaps, like the 140. Does anyone know what the flap deflections were on them?


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A Cessna 140 as well as the Cessna 170 ragwing and the 170A has two flap settings: up, and down :wink: - 30d for the 170, 50d for the 170A, and 40d for the 140.
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Lotsa people (including me) may operate the small flaps of a ragwing Cessna like that (2 positions, up or down), but I believe the factory owner's manual for the 170 sez 0-10-20-30, three notches total. Mine has 4, the 4th notch deflects flaps about 35 degrees ( measured with protractor).
Gary, you're right, the 120 didn't have flaps-- but it's almost indentical twin the 140 did.

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The 1952 170 was the first with the "para lift flaps", and those aircraft all had flap detents at 20, 30 and 40. No 10 degree detent. I think that detent was added in 53, but not sure.

Been a long time since I flew a 140, so not sure how big the flap lever was. The 170 B's all have very large flap levers, much larger than described, and the same as the later 180/185 series, at least in physical size.

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MTV This seems to be a strange deal. No one sems to recognize the flap settings. The handle is the same length as what is used in early 175's. Maybe I have a very rare and valueable flap handle. One of those deals where you hear about where somebody stumbles onto something and becomes a millionaire. I suppose that someone could have changed the placard, but it appears old and original. Is there a part number anywhere on these handles? I wasn't able to see one? Later Gary
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I fly a 140 and the flaps have 4 settings: 10, 20, 30 and 40 degrees, and 0, I guess that's 5 settings. I can't find the part number for the handle in the parts manual though. I'll measure the handle when I get down to the airport next.
The only differences between a 120 and 140 are that the 140 came with an electrical system standard (it was an option on the 120), the 140 has flaps - the 120 doesn't, and the 140 has the little "D" windows behind the doors. Both came with a rag wing originally.
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Maybe it's the parking brake handle from a 1965 Volkswagen Beetle.
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zero.one.victor wrote:Lotsa people (including me) may operate the small flaps of a ragwing Cessna like that (2 positions, up or down), but I believe the factory owner's manual for the 170 sez 0-10-20-30, three notches total. Mine has 4, the 4th notch deflects flaps about 35 degrees ( measured with protractor).
Gary, you're right, the 120 didn't have flaps-- but it's almost indentical twin the 140 did.

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Interesting...the TCDS says two flap settings (up and down) and the 140 I flew had no notches either :-k
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