Hottshot wrote:For those not familiar with the Fox Floats they are an AIR Shock, ..... I thought they worked pretty well myself

They are nifty little units, been using them on mountain bikes for many years. However, they need to be kept within their engineering limits. I "stuck" one a few years ago, which means the piston compresses, but doesn't rebound all the way out. It had something to do with the valving. Sent it back to Fox and they serviced it, never had a problem since.

The fox float that I am using is well with in the weight range for the 1320 gross in fact the rig they were designed for has a 1300 lb empty
weight so it is'nt even breaking a swet but there is more to the shock strut than can be seen in the photo . The shock will work well in sub 0 temps as well as hot .

Well thanks guys..I sure learn something new everyday!! Wasn't even thinking....air shock.

Avweld RAGE wrote:.. After the headache of going through the patent process I am ready to let everyone in on it. Here is a picture of what I've been working on. Hint: Look closely at the landing gear...

I can't see how that can be patented. It's a third party product (branded air shock) that has been used for kinetic dampening on just about everything imaginable. From car hatch backs, bicycles, motorcycles, trucks and about any machine you can think of. I can't see how there would be any ability to litigate an infringement just on that bases alone. Just curious of what angle the patent attorney used to secure a patent protection.
BTW in most of the information and advise I have read is that patents are a waste of money unless you have something worth millions Then you can get the big guns on your side that can afford to litigate infringements. If your an average Joe Shmoe getting a patent is an advertisement on your idea. If it's a good Idea and you have not secured partners with financial backbone and some big corp decides to steal it by reading up on it. Then good f'ing luck protecting it. You will litigate yourself into the poor house in short order.
Thinking a bit bigger. In today's world of Chinese industrial espionage. The smart thing to do is stay the f'k away from the patent office and produce, BRAND and distribute your product as fast as you can. Before the Chinese get wind of it and knock it off. Hopefully by then you have made your money and the product has run it's course. The last thing you want to do is go to court and incur the massive costs of getting in a legal war with an off shore offender. You will waste time and money.
I think it would be an interesting topic of discussion about bring unique airplane related stuff to market. The risks, marketing, networking and such, cause Im sure there are more than a few closeted inventors on this forum with stunning ideas that we can all benefit from.

Exodus
We are not patenting the shock . You can use any shock ! what I am patenting is the device that actuates the shock turning tension
into compression that can be used on any ( exp aircraft for now ) cub style gear .
The AOSS is patented and so can this as it does not infringe on the anything, the Aoss or any other Shock strut .

Avweld RAGE wrote:Exodus
We are not patenting the shock . You can use any shock ! what I am patenting is the device that actuates the shock turning tension
into compression that can be used on any ( exp aircraft for now ) cub style gear .
The AOSS is patented and so can this as it does not infringe on the anything, the Aoss or any other Shock strut .

It looks like your smiley face has a baseball bat behind it's back <------mine has flowers

Ok, Joshing aside, I was under the impression that, specifically the Fox Float... (tm), had been incorporated into the patent. Thanks for the enlightenment.

Ha Ha ! no bat and no rage here . However, the new suspension system is named the Rage ( roberts air gear extreme ) but Yeah lots
of air shocks can be used but the float is the lightest and performs very well .

Hey, I noticed this was on an S7 with your Bush Gear. Is it only for the S7 or would this possibly be available for the Highlander as well? Oh, and are those shocks adjustable? I've used Fox Floats on my snowmobile and they are an air/gas shock, are these the same thing? Awesome idea!

Thanks,
Jordan

Yes the air shock system is designed for the Highlander Too it is a simple retro fit . You can set them up with the same onboard
( in cock pit adjustable ) air system to adjust for the loading of your aircraft and the type of field you are operating from with a flip of a switch.
Yes we are using the fox air spring .

Avweld RAGE wrote:Yes the air shock system is designed for the Highlander Too it is a simple retro fit . You can set them up with the same onboard
( in cock pit adjustable ) air system to adjust for the loading of your aircraft and the type of field you are operating from with a flip of a switch.
Yes we are using the fox air spring .

Wait, so you are saying i can adjust the shocks from the cockpit? So on the retro-fit, does it just replace the bungee strut bolt for bolt? Would that work for any plane using bungees or whatever like that? Hope you have your video ready soon. Any details?

Would love to see more but figure the patent process is probably keeping pics off the web for now. Any chance we will see that video soon? Looks awesome!

Sorry I haven't been on to reply. I have opened a new thread, hopefully that will answer most of your questions. I will try to be much more diligent with responses in the future now that things have settled in a bit.