FAA employees have "too much on their plates to do ferry permits"... "Coming soon DAR will process and issue paperwork" ... (for a fee). An A&P would STILL be required to look at the plane and sign it off (on the Ferry Permit).

I asked the FAA inspector who made the comment why the A&P couldn't issue the permit via a log book entry. Nope, "it's a legal requirement [FAR regulation... NOT a statutory requirement] so an FAA contractor, acting for the FAA HAS to issue the paperwork." But, there is no requirement that the issuer of the ferry permit actually see the aircraft or logs.

I wonder how may aircraft will now fly to maintenance at another airport than where based lacking this "important, legally required" (but, not by Congress) document.

This isn't a rumor. My understanding was that it'll take effect this spring.....I thought I heard March 1.

So, make field approvals so much of a PITA to get done, or just say no, refuse to issue ferry permits, and farm out check rides for certificates, which resulted in some cases, looooong wait times to get a DPE to do a check ride.

Remind me why we have FSDOs???

MTV

There has been an overwhelming movement over the past several years in government contracting (construction) to outsource professional services. This relieves the government of liability for design/engineering and places the blame on the civilian contractor.

While outsourcing things is very good, the government does many things for themselves better. Used to have a government Professional on a project, if there was a change needed then it would get drawn up and approved, and quickly. Now the low bid engineer is in an office somewhere. He provided a plan, the government bought it, and that’s it. The on-site engineer (kid with a CM degree) is also a low bid contractor. That person takes pictures and sends emails...doesn’t help the actual work one bit. You build it per plan right or wrong, or pay your engineer to change it.

I suspect it’s a similar blame - shifting process at the FAA.

They won't stop trying. One more reason to go Experimental or sell out!

So, why not have the required A&P do the required ¿permit¿ with a log book entry? The FAA contractor is just a hog at the trough... contributing nothing to the SAFETY GOD. That marginal improvement in safety occurs with the A&P's eyes on experience.

Anyone going to Sun 'n Fun? Ask the Administrator why the process of getting a ferry permit is gonna turn into a time burner paper shuffle that just costs aircraft owners money for NO marginal benefit.

Al this is going to do is cause more aircraft to be flown in without the ferry permit. Not only that, but now you're going to pay through the nose for your "free" ferry permit. Like MTV said...tell me again why we have FSDO's??!!!
John

1. A DAR absolutely has to inspect the aircraft to issue a Special Flight Permit. No exceptions
2. If using a DAR to issue to SFP, there is no need for an A&P to so. The safe to fly inspection has already occurred. The only time A&P's were required to perform the inspection was when the FAA FSDO issued the SFP by fax or email and it was specified in the SFP's operating limitations. If told otherwise the Fed was wrong
3. I work weekends, before 6 and after 3, travel as needed and always answer my phone and email. The FAA does not
4. Paying thru the nose? Maybe, maybe not. Shop around if you think so, its your money
5. I'll withhold comment on FAA and A&P skill levels (same with DAR's), I've seen it all across the board

Matt. 41 year A&P/IA, 29 year pilot/aircraft owner, 20 year DART and DARF.
No trough hog.