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DBI wrote:but can't wait to close up here and get back west, even with the smoke!

It's bad. 1/4 to 1 mi visibility off and on all day long now. Watching the cams for the first opportunity to get up there.

Scouts are great planes. Heavy...and harder on the tailwheel (had to replace a couple tires/wheels in the past).

The Huskies are really hard for taller guys like me to strap on my back (I wouldn't exactly call it strapping in to, anyway). There is also more controls (stick) interference for big folks in the Husky.
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mtv wrote:As I noted before, though, if Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody going to be happy.

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And if momma ain't happy long enough, your going to be unhappy with half your stuff missing #-o
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mtv wrote:As I noted before, though, if Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody going to be happy.

MTV

And if momma ain't happy long enough, your going to be unhappy with half your stuff missing #-o


Awe....... Yep, the single life is good 8) I ain't got nobody naggin me at all. And nobody can take my stuff neither :D
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mtv wrote:What's your point? The Scout is an inevitable evolution of the early Champs, not a copy of a Cub. And, it's NOT a Cub. As noted by someone here, the stall characteristics of the ACA wing are very different from a Cub.

Frank Christiansen approached Piper about purchasing the Super Cub TC to put it back in production. New Piper obviously wasn't interested in building Cubs any more. They offered to sell him the TC, but only if he accepted the entire liability tail for ALL Cubs, even Piper built ones. Duh. So, he and an engineer designed the Husky, which is really quite different from the Cub in many many ways.

Now, Cub Crafters version of the "Top Cub"....that's a direct knock off of the Super Cub, and no apologies. Since New Piper has zero interest in building Cubs these days, and since CC got their own TC (at significant effort and expense) what's wrong with someone building new Cubs?? Same goes for the LSA's, etc.

To suggest that any high wing tandem seat airplane is a knock off of the Cub is pretty much nonsense.

As to cost, perhaps you should look into what it takes to produce a CERTIFIED airplane these days........I don't think any of these guys is getting rich. As is generally the case, the way to make a small fortune in aviation is to start with a large fortune......

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Hi MTV:

Simply put I like where the Scout, ACA, Bellanca, Champ, Aeronca, etc. evolution has gone and is going compared to where Cub evolution has/is going. It is a better choice for me. OPINION: LSA is an insult to aviation and is making most everyone who flys/builds under that rule into law breakers.

No disagreement in your thoughts. Your ideas/knowledge/writings are very helpful to me and others.

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58Skylane wrote:
mtv wrote:What's your point? The Scout is an inevitable evolution of the early Champs, not a copy of a Cub. And, it's NOT a Cub. As noted by someone here, the stall characteristics of the ACA wing are very different from a Cub.

Frank Christiansen approached Piper about purchasing the Super Cub TC to put it back in production. New Piper obviously wasn't interested in building Cubs any more. They offered to sell him the TC, but only if he accepted the entire liability tail for ALL Cubs, even Piper built ones. Duh. So, he and an engineer designed the Husky, which is really quite different from the Cub in many many ways.

Now, Cub Crafters version of the "Top Cub"....that's a direct knock off of the Super Cub, and no apologies. Since New Piper has zero interest in building Cubs these days, and since CC got their own TC (at significant effort and expense) what's wrong with someone building new Cubs?? Same goes for the LSA's, etc.

To suggest that any high wing tandem seat airplane is a knock off of the Cub is pretty much nonsense.

As to cost, perhaps you should look into what it takes to produce a CERTIFIED airplane these days........I don't think any of these guys is getting rich. As is generally the case, the way to make a small fortune in aviation is to start with a large fortune......

MTV


I don't want to get into any arguments neither. I can't see huge profits being made neither. Think about the labor, materials and components alone. That's got to add up close to $100k+ on a Scout for example. I dunno :-k


I'd be surprised if that figure was anywhere near the real number. Consider volume of production....none of these outfits are building more than 30 to 50 of these things a year. How much of a price break do you suppose Lycoming is willing to offer a manufacturer who orders 30 engines a year? Labor cost includes benefits, and you have to keep them working or they'll find another job....precisely what the Interstate Arctic Tern ran into years ago. You can't go down to the union hall for a welder when you get an order for a plane....

Etc. I've been told by a couple of very knowledgeable people that the profit margin on these types of aircraft is really small.

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Here is a trivia question on market comparison:

Which company orders the most engines from Lycoming each year?

1) Cessna

2) Robinson

3) Cub Craftrers
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That's easy: The manufacturer who produces the most general aviation aircraft per year, by a country mile.....Robinson.

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Robison! Good work!
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I know this doesn't count but what if you put Vans in with that bunch. I think Vans still offers factory new Lycomings at a discount.

I wouldn't have known that Robinson production was that high but seeing as how nobody is building much of anything I suppose it makes sense. I would have guessed Cubcrafters.

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OregonMaule wrote:And if momma ain't happy long enough, your going to be unhappy with half your stuff missing #-o


Ohhhhhh, it's way more than half.

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GumpAir wrote:
OregonMaule wrote:And if momma ain't happy long enough, your going to be unhappy with half your stuff missing #-o


Ohhhhhh, it's way more than half.

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