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Cary wrote:I have a pair of older DaHon folding bikes. They pack down small enough that I can put 2 of them into the trunk area of my P172D--they take up about half of it. They have 16" wheels, which makes them look goofier than heck, but they work pretty well. Only problem is that they are heavy, at just over 30# each. Here's me riding around on one of mine--fast forward to 1:36. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4O6L60cXrY

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Do not skip to 1:36. Watch the whole video. It is excellent and well worth watching.
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Addicted2climbing wrote:Hey Guys,

Not sure if this works for you as it only works for hard surfaces, but I have been commuting on an electric skateboard.
I have this one: http://store.yuneec.com/us/e-go.html?gc ... fgodL4wA5Q

its a bit slow at 12 mph, but it gets the job done. It has an 18 mile range but have never tested it that far. i get 10 miles no problem on a charge with some to spare. I am still a student pilot, so I tend not to go places and then explore, but when I do, I plan to throw the board in the plane. I also am a member of the EAA chapter 40 and use it to go from the EAA hangar to the other side of the airport to see a friends hangar. Works great for that too.

if you don't mind it being a bit on the slow side its great. If you want more speed or range, build your own or there are other options out there in the 1K to 2K range. I am now building my own with 2 integral hub motors, 16,000 mah packs and will get around 15 miles at 25mph or faster if i want...

This should fit in a cub no problem...


Wow. That thing is really nice! Do you use it enough to warrant the price tag?

My default has always been to throw the street deck into the plane, although in recent times I have found myself wishing for softer wheels and wider trucks than my standard skateboards have always been. I must be getting old to want to go back to soft cruiser wheels.

I was also leaning towards a bicycle simply because it can be useful whether or not I landed on a Class Delta runway or some dirt road somewhere. A standup electric scooter was another thing I had thought about which is much like your skateboard. 9 times out of 10 it would be exactly what I would want for around the hangar or town.

(I know Greg -- It still wont fit inside your J3. :) )


Hey motosix,

I do use the board quite a bit. I paid $500 from craigslist and it was still unopened. I live all of 15 miles from work, but my commute takes me from Burbank through Hollywood to Culver City and it takes over an hour to do that drive; its maddening. So to break things up, a few days a week I commute via the subway train to avoid the traffic. The station drops me off 3 miles from my work and there is a bike path that goes from the station directly to my work so its a safe ride without the worry of cars. In all honesty, the commute takes about 15 minutes longer not including driving to the station, but I get a 15 minute skateboard ride and arrive at work with a smile on my face. It works so well that I have found that its just a bit too slow for me as it was designed to be at a speed that if something happened you could still jump off and run out the fall. I found that, since I am riding on a sheltered path most of the time that I can afford to go faster so i am building my own. I will likely sell this one, once its done. For the person who fly's to hard runways all the time and just wants a way to get to a place to eat near an airport it would be perfect. It only weighs 10 or so pounds and I can strap it to a backpack. For those not wanting to skate, the electric foot scooter version is also an option and they fold too. for an airport vehicle to get between hangars its really ideal and people always come out to ask about it when I ride by.

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I think Greg was right all along; I have been thinking about this all wrong!

This photo sums it up perfectly:

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What I really need is quick detach hubs for some bushwheels! :mrgreen:

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Man I got rid of my bikes cause you got to pedal the damn things. I got more important things to do like sit on my ass (I hate riding horses). My planes have engines. My car has an engine. My truck has an engine. My chopper (mc) has an engine. My leaf blower (which I've never used) has an engine. My drill has an engine. I could go on and on. If I'm gonna get a bike to carry around in my plane it better have an engine too. And two wheels seems kinda annoying, kinda like twin engine planes, twice as likely to have a breakdown. And what's with this taking the wheel off stuff? That seems like a lot of work to me, and I'm trying to avoid work as much as possible these days. So my thoughts went to a unicycle. Only one wheel! And you don't have to remove it to put it in your plane - I mean what would be the point. Of course it'd have to have an engine cause we've already established I ain't pedaling anything (okay I do have some aircraft parts for sale but I digest). Of course my balance is getting worse as I get older and hell even as a kid I couldn't balance on a unicycle. Ah Ha!

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That thing is cool, but I think it needs a bigger engine! :shock: :lol:

It reminds me of this:

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http://www.airwheel.net/x6.html
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I looked at the electric folders http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Electric-Folding-Bike-6-Speed-Power-Bike-Lightweight-E-Folding-Bike-/221690410622, but felt you should be wearing a bonnet instead of a helmet when riding them. For manly men there is this:

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Looks like the next generation of the Rokon Ranger -- I like it.

Not that my quick-detach-bushwheel-for-mountain-bike wasn't already a bit of a tangent, I am starting to think about something like this:

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It seems they are quite popular with a few versions floating around:

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Barnstormer wrote:Man I got rid of my bikes cause you got to pedal the damn things. I got more important things to do like sit on my ass (I hate riding horses). My planes have engines. My car has an engine. My truck has an engine. My chopper (mc) has an engine. My leaf blower (which I've never used) has an engine. My drill has an engine. I could go on and on. If I'm gonna get a bike to carry around in my plane it better have an engine too. And two wheels seems kinda annoying, kinda like twin engine planes, twice as likely to have a breakdown. And what's with this taking the wheel off stuff? That seems like a lot of work to me, and I'm trying to avoid work as much as possible these days. So my thoughts went to a unicycle. Only one wheel! And you don't have to remove it to put it in your plane - I mean what would be the point...


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I got a self balancing unicycle for the plane last week. It's the perfect airport mobility device. I can take it just about anywhere I could ride a bike. The one I have will do 20 mph and has an easy 25 mile range. Not that hard to ride for tailwheel pilots. :D
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Dave,

Look at the Richey Break Away.

http://ritcheylogic.com/break-away-steel-cross-frame

Lots of pictures of this bike in various forms of broken down and in the travel case if you google it. These are real bikes that you actually want to ride (ie they don't weigh 35 lbs) and won't eat into the useful load too much. For light trail bike I'd set it up with a 1x10 or 1x11 and flat bars
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Barnstormer wrote:Man I got rid of my bikes cause you got to pedal the damn things. I got more important things to do like sit on my ass (I hate riding horses). My planes have engines. My car has an engine. My truck has an engine. My chopper (mc) has an engine. My leaf blower (which I've never used) has an engine. My drill has an engine. I could go on and on. If I'm gonna get a bike to carry around in my plane it better have an engine too. And two wheels seems kinda annoying, kinda like twin engine planes, twice as likely to have a breakdown. And what's with this taking the wheel off stuff? That seems like a lot of work to me, and I'm trying to avoid work as much as possible these days. So my thoughts went to a unicycle. Only one wheel! And you don't have to remove it to put it in your plane - I mean what would be the point...


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I got a self balancing unicycle for the plane last week. It's the perfect airport mobility device. I can take it just about anywhere I could ride a bike. The one I have will do 20 mph and has an easy 25 mile range. Not that hard to ride for tailwheel pilots. :D

What kind did you get trucktent? I couldn't find any with a top speed over 12.5mph.
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What kind did you get trucktent? I couldn't find any with a top speed over 12.5mph.



I got a King Song 14C with the 680 watt hour battery. It comes speed limited but you can unlock it with a code for higher speeds.
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I'm calling him out also on that top speed AND the range...., no offense TT! I'm sure it feels like 20 but have you actually confirmed that, and have you actually ridden it 25 miles on one charge? Optimistic range is the number one sales pitch on any E vehicle, and most often to be unrealistic. Cool ride none the less, I can see one of those being just the thing for certain situations.

I have over 100 miles now on the E converted Montague, and just today I realized that my new NAUTA fuel bladder can be carried full (secured of course) and like my small marine tank I've carried for years, fuel can be transferred into the mains while in flight via the floor mount transfer pump, so like a ferry tank. Even when the bladders full and "puffed up", I can still still get the Montague with it's E conversion system in and out just like before. less then 3 minutes later I'm riding off at over 30 mph, confirmed, for (here's where it's gets sticky:do I pedal assist, is it gravel or paved, do I have a headwind, up or down hill, do I slow down, etc.) anywhere from 15 to 30 miles. I spend most of my time at 18-22 mph, just like anything else slowing down a bit offers large range gains. If I know the ride is of a certain distance I'll haul ass, if unknown I'll slow down for better range. It's still good on trails/off road also, how good we'll see this summer as I have some flight rides (new term: flying someplace just to trail ride the bike) planned for this year that should be a blast. First an off airport landing followed by an epic mountain bike ride!

Here's a pic of all three of my E bikes, all bought and or built in the last 3 months. The fat tired 1500 watt low geared non folding bike on the left is the "baddest", I've been riding it up to the ski area through the fields, through snow and whatever, right up to the lift (no ski area rules about riding a bike up to the lift!), it's a monster truck of a bike. The 1000 watt Montague in the middle is my second one, and I love them. By a happy circumstance or dumb luck, mine also converted to E power exceptionally well. The little 350 watt fattie on the right is the one I carry in the crane. The first two bikes were already 52 volt, the little one was 36v, so I just decided to upgrade it to 52 v also. This way I can borrow a battery from my other rides and double or triple my range :shock: They only weigh 6.5 lbs each.

If you get a Montague, the added utility of an E assist system more then makes up for it's added weight (less then 20 lbs additional to the bike stock weight), and I'm a weight weenie. My opinion, but I can now carry a 30 mph plus bike in an airplane that burns 4 GPH or less while also carrying up to 37 gallons of fuel, full camping gear, and still land anywhere , so I'm doing something right=D> The two wheel collapsible TRAVOY bike trailer with a 60 lb. capacity is also in the plane, on the right side behind the bike. In 15 seconds it folds out and using the E bike and the NAUTA bladder and one of my ABW gas bags I can go get mo mo gas, but that's another thread,

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TT: I take it back! I didn't see your last post, that's a huge battery for that little sucker, sounds like you did your home work.

I just checked them out, wow..... I had no idea they were that high powered, I fully believe your performance stats, crap, now I want one!
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Thanks for posting that up Greg; I couldn't remember the name you told me...

Every photo you post courierguy makes me want an S7 more and more. Knock that sh!t off please because I can't afford one! :shock:
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courierguy wrote:TT: I take it back! I didn't see your last post, that's a huge battery for that little sucker, sounds like you did your home work.

I just checked them out, wow..... I had no idea they were that high powered, I fully believe your performance stats, crap, now I want one!


Go get one. These wheels are getting better and better. Every few months a new generation comes out better and faster.

I haven't done a full range test yet but I did get 10 hilly miles with over 1/2 battery capacity left. I pronounce this a viable tool for the plane. I'm having fun with it.
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I saw a guy crossing the street (a 4 lane divided highway actually) on a pedestrian crosswalk. He leaned way forward to get the thing going super fast and ate it in a big way in front of 20 cars. I can't see wanting to go 25mph on one of those things. I can't run that fast if I have to bail out.
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courierguy wrote:TT: I take it back! I didn't see your last post, that's a huge battery for that little sucker, sounds like you did your home work.

I just checked them out, wow..... I had no idea they were that high powered, I fully believe your performance stats, crap, now I want one!


Go get one. These wheels are getting better and better. Every few months a new generation comes out better and faster.

I haven't done a full range test yet but I did get 10 hilly miles with over 1/2 battery capacity left. I pronounce this a viable tool for the plane. I'm having fun with it.


I hadn't checked into those type conveyances for a while, and for sure they have advanced a lot, and it looks like you picked the best of the best. We need to get together somewhere this summer and swap rides. I'm going to try and make the Concrete Wa. thing again this summer. I'll be carrying my bike every where I go this year, like always, except for the Frank Church! Yeah I know it's a wilderness but it sure would be cool to be able to bike some of the trials I've hiked. Oh well, that still leaves several hundreds or thousands of square miles of Idaho for me to play in :P
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Another "electric skateboard" option. All of our friends in the surf community are using these as shuttle/bar hopping vehicles. They're a far cry from the "hoverboard" type toys out there and the price reflects that. I'd love one for my 150 since there's zero chance of any sort of bike fitting in there.



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Oh man. The range is sorta limited, but I would love one of these.
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A fellow over on supercub.org doesn't worry about space, just weight.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzVYS ... XFEVGZWdTQ

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzVYS ... lVDa19xeE0

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