Does anyone know if a Super Cub can be had for $40,000? Lowest I'm seeing right now is in the high 50's.

J-3 with a C-90 or O-200. (that's the best i've got)

20 years ago that would buy a pretty decent user grade. Today, $40K will buy you a project.

I paid $5K for my first one. 44 years ago!

Gump

Thanks for the replies. That's what I figured, but I've seen a lot of supers that have been up for sale for upwards of 10 months and they're priced in the upper 50's and haven't sold.

New (used) savage cub around 50k all day. Super cub performance with lower fuel burn. May not haul quite as much either. But super fun and has a lot of super cub style.

I'm biased. But I still want a real super cub too!

Good to know about the savage cub

There is a cub sitting at a local airport here with a forsake sign in the window. I took a quick look at it and might guess you could get it for 40k; it was rough but likely airworthy. I know nothing about cubs and think the price the bring is ridiculous so it could be a 60k cub for all I know. Shoot me a pm if you want the phone number.

This beast started out at 75k when i was selling my cub last winter. Aside from the engine being high time it may have some other issues...


http://anchorage.craigslist.org/for/4580040407.html

You get what you pay for. The cheap ones tend to be a snowball at the first annual. Once in awhile you will get a good deal. I paid 55 for mine. It needs some work, but I can fly it and fix it my self.

TxKiger,

If you have lots of money, you really need a Super Cub. If you don't, you can get the same high lift wing (not as long), the same engine, twice as many seats, and the same solid build in a Pacer or Tri-Pacer for half that price. When Gump was buying his Super Cub for $5,000, I was buying a 150 hp Tri-Pacer for $2500 because I couldn't afford the $5,000. Pacers were more expensive then because very few Tri-Pacers had been converted PA22/20. Now that so many have been converted, they are near the same price.

Both Cub and Pacer are better teaching machines. Better flying machines, not really. Supply and Demand drive price more than quality. Really popular stuff costs more.

Jim

contactflying wrote:TxKiger,

If you have lots of money, you really need a Super Cub. If you don't, you can get the same high lift wing (not as long), the same engine, twice as many seats, and the same solid build in a Pacer or Tri-Pacer for half that price. When Gump was buying his Super Cub for $5,000, I was buying a 150 hp Tri-Pacer for $2500 because I couldn't afford the $5,000. Pacers were more expensive then because very few Tri-Pacers had been converted PA22/20. Now that so many have been converted, they are near the same price.

Both Cub and Pacer are better teaching machines. Better flying machines, not really. Supply and Demand drive price more than quality. Really popular stuff costs more.

Jim

Kinda apples and oranges here.
Sure a Tripacer will fly and they are cheap but not really the same league.

Any of you older guys remember the Popular Mechanics add years ago for the 200 dollar Jeep flat fender still in the original crate still cocooned in grease, apparently army surplus ??
Well, the 40K Super Cub is about the same deal...
Just saying...

TangoFox wrote:

contactflying wrote:TxKiger,

If you have lots of money, you really need a Super Cub. If you don't, you can get the same high lift wing (not as long), the same engine, twice as many seats, and the same solid build in a Pacer or Tri-Pacer for half that price. When Gump was buying his Super Cub for $5,000, I was buying a 150 hp Tri-Pacer for $2500 because I couldn't afford the $5,000. Pacers were more expensive then because very few Tri-Pacers had been converted PA22/20. Now that so many have been converted, they are near the same price.

Both Cub and Pacer are better teaching machines. Better flying machines, not really. Supply and Demand drive price more than quality. Really popular stuff costs more.

Jim

Kinda apples and oranges here.
Sure a Tripacer will fly and they are cheap but not really the same league.

Two totally different animals. They are both tail wheels, that's about the same. I would like to see a pacer get in in less than 300 ft. Same on takeoff.

PAMR MX wrote:This beast started out at 75k when i was selling my cub last winter. Aside from the engine being high time it may have some other issues...


http://anchorage.craigslist.org/for/4580040407.html

Called about that one a while ago. It failed compression on 3 of 4.

My two cents, FWIW...

I'd be nervous about any Super Cub that could be had for $40K, unless you don't mind a project.

Pacer is a totally different plane, in a completely different league. Nothing wrong with it, but it is short-coupled, short wing, side by side, and nothing like flying a Super Cub.

PA-12 (what I fly) is a damn good alternative to a Super Cub, if you can find one for the right money (especially if you have 150 hp like mine). The old joke is that you can do 90% of what you can do in a Super Cub, and you probably shouldn't be doing that other 10% anyway. I've always thought of mine as 3/4 the performance at nearly 1/2 the price, and twice as comfortable too (the cab is wider to accommodate the 2-wide back seat).

If you don't need a certified airplane, I'd look really really hard at a Rans S-7. If I had the choice between a mediocre PA-18 for $55K or a good solid Rans S-7 for $40K, I'd take the Rans in a heartbeat (100hp only, I wouldn't mess with an 80hp). I know a guy who had a cherry '78 Super Cub and a very nice Rans S-7 at the same time. He sold the Cub and has never regretted it.

Your mileage may vary, but I've found there is verylittle I can do in a Cub that I can't do in an S-7, and there is a substantial difference in both entry and ongoing cost between the two (Rans is 4 gph of 91 mogas). In addition to Courierguy on this site, I know another guy who uses his S-7 a lot like a 4-wheeler and it has withstood an incredible beating.

Tom wrote:

TangoFox wrote:

contactflying wrote:TxKiger,

If you have lots of money, you really need a Super Cub. If you don't, you can get the same high lift wing (not as long), the same engine, twice as many seats, and the same solid build in a Pacer or Tri-Pacer for half that price. When Gump was buying his Super Cub for $5,000, I was buying a 150 hp Tri-Pacer for $2500 because I couldn't afford the $5,000. Pacers were more expensive then because very few Tri-Pacers had been converted PA22/20. Now that so many have been converted, they are near the same price.

Both Cub and Pacer are better teaching machines. Better flying machines, not really. Supply and Demand drive price more than quality. Really popular stuff costs more.

Jim

Kinda apples and oranges here.
Sure a Tripacer will fly and they are cheap but not really the same league.

Two totally different animals. They are both tail wheels, that's about the same. I would like to see a pacer get in in less than 300 ft. Same on takeoff.

Not that there needs to be a 'me' too.. but I have most my tailwheel time in a Supercub 160hp.. I went to Alaska Ski and FLoats in Talkeetna flying modified Pacers (longer wing) on both floats and wheels. Pacers are no where near a supercub.. will make a better pilot for sure to fly a pacer -- but I have since understood that a pacer is not really for me unless heavily modded and then it would be a supercub price.

TxKiger wrote:Thanks for the replies. That's what I figured, but I've seen a lot of supers that have been up for sale for upwards of 10 months and they're priced in the upper 50's and haven't sold.

Ummm, has it occurred to you that the reason those airplanes haven't sold is because they are junk??

One of the unique characteristics of pilots is a total inability to accept that the airplane parked in their hangar that hasn't been flown in ten years (and maybe hasn't had an honest annual in as many years) isn't worth quite as much as that newly rebuilt airplane they saw advertised in Barnstormers.

If you want quality, or even AIRWORTHINESS, plan on spending what that demands.

If you want to buy a $40 K Super Cub, plan on spending an additional $70 K to make it truly airworthy.

Cubs are overpriced??? Really??? Selling price is what folks are willing to pay. And buyers are still paying over $100 K for really good cubs.

Not me, but that's called economics.

For $40k you should be able to find a nice 7AC Champ.

MTV

I am a Prince in Saudi Arabia.

I have a brand new PA-18 still in the crate from the factory ( never opened) for $10,000 plus shipping.