NineThreeKilo wrote:Why would you need a HP tailwheel for a BFR?

Do you not think you could handle a C152?

You can do it in any plane, with your background it shouldn’t be a factor

Not sure if you need it or not for the conversion, but probably a good idea and would fill a rental checkout at the local FBO plus get your local knowledge so why not, if you got it all down it’ll just be 1hr ground and 1hr flight

48Stinson1083 wrote:Do you get a Proficiency Check? Thinking it might be allowed to satisfied for your Flight Review.

A1Skinner wrote:In order to fly a taildragger I'm being told I need to do my BFR in a taildragger so the endorsement gets put on my license. In Canada tail dragger isn't an endorsement. I can fly a 1600 hp 802 legally on my PPL in Canada, no high performance or tail dragger endorsements needed. But if I want to rent say a C180 in the US, I need to have my high performance and taildragger endorsements. So according to the guy doing my conversion, I have to do those on my BFR so they can get put onto my FAA license as endorsements. Does that make sense?

§61.56 Flight review.
(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (f) of this section, a flight review consists of a minimum of 1 hour of flight training and 1 hour of ground training. The review must include:

(1) A review of the current general operating and flight rules of part 91 of this chapter; and

(2) A review of those maneuvers and procedures that, at the discretion of the person giving the review, are necessary for the pilot to demonstrate the safe exercise of the privileges of the pilot certificate.

(b) Glider pilots may substitute a minimum of three instructional flights in a glider, each of which includes a flight to traffic pattern altitude, in lieu of the 1 hour of flight training required in paragraph (a) of this section.

(c) Except as provided in paragraphs (d), (e), and (g) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of an aircraft unless, since the beginning of the 24th calendar month before the month in which that pilot acts as pilot in command, that person has—

(1) Accomplished a flight review given in an aircraft for which that pilot is rated by an authorized instructor; and

(2) A logbook endorsed from an authorized instructor who gave the review certifying that the person has satisfactorily completed the review.

A1Skinner wrote:

48Stinson1083 wrote:Do you get a Proficiency Check? Thinking it might be allowed to satisfied for your Flight Review.

Not 100% sure what you mean by this. But we have to do in company spring training every year for the air tractors for the commercial work we do. Are you saying I i give that check sheet to the FAA they should recognize it as equivalent to the BFR? That would be great.

(c) Except as provided in paragraphs (d), (e), and (g) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of an aircraft unless, since the beginning of the 24th calendar month before the month in which that pilot acts as pilot in command, that person has—

(1) Accomplished a flight review given in an aircraft for which that pilot is rated by an authorized instructor; and

(2) A logbook endorsed from an authorized instructor who gave the review certifying that the person has satisfactorily completed the review.

(d) A person who has, within the period specified in paragraph (c) of this section, passed any of the following need not accomplish the flight review required by this section:

(1) A pilot proficiency check or practical test conducted by an examiner, an approved pilot check airman, or a U.S. Armed Force, for a pilot certificate, rating, or operating privilege.

(2) A practical test conducted by an examiner for the issuance of a flight instructor certificate, an additional rating on a flight instructor certificate, renewal of a flight instructor certificate, or reinstatement of a flight instructor certificate.

(e) A person who has, within the period specified in paragraph (c) of this section, satisfactorily accomplished one or more phases of an FAA-sponsored pilot proficiency award program need not accomplish the flight review required by this section.

(f) A person who holds a flight instructor certificate and who has, within the period specified in paragraph (c) of this section, satisfactorily completed a renewal of a flight instructor certificate under the provisions in §61.197 need not accomplish the one hour of ground training specified in paragraph (a) of this section.

(g) A student pilot need not accomplish the flight review required by this section provided the student pilot is undergoing training for a certificate and has a current solo flight endorsement as required under §61.87 of this part.

(h) The requirements of this section may be accomplished in combination with the requirements of §61.57 and other applicable recent experience requirements at the discretion of the authorized instructor conducting the flight review.

NineThreeKilo wrote:

A1Skinner wrote:In order to fly a taildragger I'm being told I need to do my BFR in a taildragger so the endorsement gets put on my license. In Canada tail dragger isn't an endorsement. I can fly a 1600 hp 802 legally on my PPL in Canada, no high performance or tail dragger endorsements needed. But if I want to rent say a C180 in the US, I need to have my high performance and taildragger endorsements. So according to the guy doing my conversion, I have to do those on my BFR so they can get put onto my FAA license as endorsements. Does that make sense?

A BFR (Bi Annual Flight Review) covered everything you are currently qualified to fly on your pilot’s cert

It doesn’t go on your certificate, our are plastic and would be hard to write on, it just goes in your logbook as another flight, even if you don’t “pass it” it just gets logged as a training flight and nothing more.


If I take a BFR in a 7AC champ on wheels, it would also cover me in a PC-12, a DHC-2 on straight floats, a glider (if I was rated…need to work on that), helicopters, etc

Now CURRENCY to fly pax is a different matter and could be where that person got confused, your landing currency in a trike is independent of your currency in tailwheel, floats, helicopter, etc


If that makes sense

§61.56 Flight review.
(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (f) of this section, a flight review consists of a minimum of 1 hour of flight training and 1 hour of ground training. The review must include:

(1) A review of the current general operating and flight rules of part 91 of this chapter; and

(2) A review of those maneuvers and procedures that, at the discretion of the person giving the review, are necessary for the pilot to demonstrate the safe exercise of the privileges of the pilot certificate.

(b) Glider pilots may substitute a minimum of three instructional flights in a glider, each of which includes a flight to traffic pattern altitude, in lieu of the 1 hour of flight training required in paragraph (a) of this section.

(c) Except as provided in paragraphs (d), (e), and (g) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of an aircraft unless, since the beginning of the 24th calendar month before the month in which that pilot acts as pilot in command, that person has—

(1) Accomplished a flight review given in an aircraft for which that pilot is rated by an authorized instructor; and

(2) A logbook endorsed from an authorized instructor who gave the review certifying that the person has satisfactorily completed the review.

A1Skinner wrote:

NineThreeKilo wrote:

A1Skinner wrote:In order to fly a taildragger I'm being told I need to do my BFR in a taildragger so the endorsement gets put on my license. In Canada tail dragger isn't an endorsement. I can fly a 1600 hp 802 legally on my PPL in Canada, no high performance or tail dragger endorsements needed. But if I want to rent say a C180 in the US, I need to have my high performance and taildragger endorsements. So according to the guy doing my conversion, I have to do those on my BFR so they can get put onto my FAA license as endorsements. Does that make sense?

A BFR (Bi Annual Flight Review) covered everything you are currently qualified to fly on your pilot’s cert

It doesn’t go on your certificate, our are plastic and would be hard to write on, it just goes in your logbook as another flight, even if you don’t “pass it” it just gets logged as a training flight and nothing more.


If I take a BFR in a 7AC champ on wheels, it would also cover me in a PC-12, a DHC-2 on straight floats, a glider (if I was rated…need to work on that), helicopters, etc

Now CURRENCY to fly pax is a different matter and could be where that person got confused, your landing currency in a trike is independent of your currency in tailwheel, floats, helicopter, etc


If that makes sense

§61.56 Flight review.
(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (f) of this section, a flight review consists of a minimum of 1 hour of flight training and 1 hour of ground training. The review must include:

(1) A review of the current general operating and flight rules of part 91 of this chapter; and

(2) A review of those maneuvers and procedures that, at the discretion of the person giving the review, are necessary for the pilot to demonstrate the safe exercise of the privileges of the pilot certificate.

(b) Glider pilots may substitute a minimum of three instructional flights in a glider, each of which includes a flight to traffic pattern altitude, in lieu of the 1 hour of flight training required in paragraph (a) of this section.

(c) Except as provided in paragraphs (d), (e), and (g) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of an aircraft unless, since the beginning of the 24th calendar month before the month in which that pilot acts as pilot in command, that person has—

(1) Accomplished a flight review given in an aircraft for which that pilot is rated by an authorized instructor; and

(2) A logbook endorsed from an authorized instructor who gave the review certifying that the person has satisfactorily completed the review.

That's the issue though. In Canada we are basically licensed to fly any single engine land aircraft with just our PPL. Tail dragger or not. No such thing as a tail dragger endorsement or needing a "high performance" endorsement to fly a constant speed prop. We just are legal to do it. So the BFR may cover anything smaller if I do it in a C150, but I need to get the endorsement for my license, which is why I need to do it in a high performance taildragger. Maybe I'm getting the endorsement and BFR confused, but I can do both on the same flight? Is what I'm being told. Clear as mud, typical government. Haha. And my PPC is only allowed if its signed off by a US CFI, which ours aren't as its just done in company in Canada.

Josef wrote:Let me know if you find a place to rent a 180 in the US. Cant help you with the legal details of the transfer. My guess if you should just do your BFR in whatever you can find (150 or 172). You will want to get a CFI to endorse you for TW, Complex and HP. With your scenario my guess is those endorsements would be all of 1 or 2 hour dual.

Josef wrote:Is his plane registered in Canada? If it is can you do a BFR in a C registered plane? This seems like a ton of loopholes that you have to jump through when you have clearly demonstrated proficiency while in Canada. Also, are you just doing this so that you can fly N registered planes in the US? My experience has been that renting in the US gets you pretty much a Cherokee or 172. Seems like a lot of hassle for those options.