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Re: This is Why I Have a 206

No, the glass breaker tools for cars are of no help on plexiglass or lean. The crash ax pictured above is what you want.

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Re: This is Why I Have a 206

Depends on how young the kids are and how much actual practice they have. IF they can open the front door AND flip the lever down on the rear door, the rear door will kick out as well. I agree it's not great, but think about being in the back seat of a Cherokee or V-tail or most airplanes.
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G44 wrote:No, the glass breaker tools for cars are of no help on plexiglass or lean. The crash ax pictured above is what you want.

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dogpilot wrote:Actually, while flipping though images for the crash axe I have, I came across this one, which is a bit more compact and looks a heck of a lot more evil and easier to store, cheaper too. Yes you do not want to burn. You should always be looking at solutions for your worst case scenario. The biggest problem isn't that you can't get out, but the occupants get a bit shaken up in a incident and do not react quickly, or necessarily correctly. This is due to impact trauma and the general disconnect people tend to get from a dramatic event.

When I went to the Naval PG school for safety and accident investigation we where studying the high number of deaths from helicopters making controlled water landings. It turned out people where so disoriented from the sudden immersion in water and the lack of reference, they just could not figure out how to get out before they succumbed (I think the term is "Panic"). So we started the "Helo Dunker" training. A device that was a helo fuselage and it went into the water in several different orientations and you had to get out, several of the times wearing blackout goggles. The death toll from subsequent accidents went down significantly.

So in short, the best tool is to make a game of it and practice it with your kids. They may understand your explanation, intellectually, but will lose it in actual practice. So actually make them do an evac in several scenarios. Heck, I was just showing my son what to do if I had a sudden health event and he was alone with me in the aircraft, how to talk how to squawk and so on.
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Thanks for all the input.

No doubt training is paramount but sometimes we have to modify our expectations when it comes to kids.
.......at least my kids.
I can already see the eye roll [emoji849] and head shake from my 14 yo daughter as she walks off looking at her cell phone when I tell her we’re going to practice a plane crash.
My 10 yo son might get into it if I could somehow include Fortnight, but the reality is when the real shit hits the fan that all goes out the proverbial window and it’ll be up to me to get everyone out. If I’m not dead.

I like the axe.

BTW they both know how to talk on the radio, turn on the AP and operate the controls so if my ticker stops they have a chance. I’m not a complete loser. At least I’ve taught em something!

I’ve come to learn that flying with your loved ones is a conundrum. If I think too much about it I feel a little guilty.
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dogpilot wrote:I had the co-pilot door on the Soloy 206. It came with it, I didn't have to pay for it. It is rather hurtful in its pricing. Sure is nice to be able to let folks in on their own side. It also does make operating on floats a bit easier than climbing over the nose to get to the other float. It just you can also almost afford another airplane for its price.


Yes, but I look at it also from a safety standpoint. I often fly w wife and two kids and in an emergency there’s really only one useable egress point. Getting the back doors open would be difficult especially for kids.
Post crash fires give me nightmares!!!
That's why I bought a P model. Can't get quite as big of stuff in, but man I like the copilot door. And they are cheaper...


Everything in aviation is a trade off.

The P is a great airplane.
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