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Vernier Throttle ?

What do you prefer for a throttle. I have a fixed prop on my Tundra so I don't really need the dial in ability of rpm control but I do have the Vernier throttle. When I fly the Cub I find the fine touches on the throttle much quicker for the little adjustments at landing instead of squeezing the button of the Vernier. The button gets to be automatic but I know its slower. Anyone ever seen a button lock for a Vernier?
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Re: Vernier Throttle ?

I prefer a stick in the right hand and a standard throttle in the left. :D
Back to your question,I would say a standard throttle for our type of flying.
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My airplane had a vernier throttle when I bought it. I know a couple people who have them & like them, but I hated it-- too hard to make fine adjustments when landing while having to hold that damn button in. Thought about drilling the knob & adding a set screw as a "button lock" but thought I'd try it out first using duct tape to lock the button instead. Had a spooky takeoff when (unbeknownst to me) the throttle started slowly backing off about 100' into the climbout-- it turns out that button's there for a reason. Replaced the vernier throttle with a standard one, much better.

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i'd say standard for sure, too many times u need a quick burst of power, like on approach to sulphur...leave the button stuff for the pavement pounder's...
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I've had both as well. And while I prefer standard, a vernier is easy enough to live with and get used to. And in a "I need more throttle right now" situation, if you get in the habit of pushing the vernier throttle forward via the silver button so it automatically unlocks, shouldn't be that big a deal in an emergency. Maybe. [-o<
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We have both in our 182s. I don't care for it much, but we had a throttle that chronically backed out, so that was the fix. Luckily I've flown both enough that I'm comfortable with either, but for those that are new to our aircraft, we require them to do a checkout in both (there are other differences besides this one...enough to warrant the checkout in each). I'd prefer to get a standard throttle back into it, which I think will eventually happen.
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Vernier works great on mixture controls, but I don't like it and don't recommend it for throttle. Just one more thing to have to deal with (and which might possibly fail) when you need the power RIGHT NOW!!
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I have used both. I grew up running farm equipment and then fire rigs. They use the vernier style. For me it is 6 one, half dozen the other. Hope that helps :roll:
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Re: Vernier Throttle ?

I have used both. I grew up running farm equipment and then fire rigs. They use the vernier style. For me it is 6 one, half dozen the other. Hope that helps :roll:

Rob I'm guessing the Vernier on the fire rigs is/was back at the control panel used to keep idle at a certain RPM for pump pressure. I'd be surprised if they had one associated for the foot feed for driving.

Good for stationary equipment, PTO's and farm equipment or equipment that crawls 6mph. If you have issues with throttle creep you might insure your friction lock is doing it's job.
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Re: Vernier Throttle ?

As this is a opinion pole??
I like the vernier. they stay where you put them and all you have to do is hit with an open palm if you need the power. If not squeeze it and pull back.
I think they might be futile on a fixed pitch engine. It's been awhile since I've been in one so I might be biased.
With Manifold, prop and mixture, and trying to get best performance I vote for!!
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Re: Vernier Throttle ?

M6RV6 wrote:... all you have to do is hit with an open palm if you need the power. If not squeeze it and pull back........


The problem I had with the vernier throttle was not go-around power, it was the fine adjustments plus-and-minus as I was working a landing. Easy to push/pull with a standard throttle, not so easy to wind in/wind out with a vernier, at least as fast as required. I think I probably would have got it eventually, but got fed up and bought a standard friction lock throttle after about a week.
BTW Grasstrip, that throttle was only $55 from Spruce. Why put it off?

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Throttle choice was not about the money of course. I don't even try to convince my wife that anything about this project has been for the purpose of saving money. With the exception of the fixed prop, it's been about the fit for the job. I didn't expect this plane to be as responsive to the throttle touches at landing as it is, nor for that fine touch to be as useful a tool as it is for this size plane. Now with 57 hrs TT the choice of throttle type that I made ends up being about control, especially the control of sink rate for the stol landing even with this heavier four place. With all of the things there is to anticipate about the performance of a new piece of equipment, it made it hard to get it all right the first time. One thing I learned is that most of the time waiting to use my own hindsight ended up being more expensive than using someone else's. That became the motivation for the question. What pluses and minuses are there in each of your different planes. Now, I believe I will switch it out and it will make the throttle a more useful tool than it is for my kind of use.
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Re: Vernier Throttle ?

hotrod150 wrote: BTW Grasstrip, that throttle was only $55 from Spruce. Why put it off?

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Club aircraft so it's not my call. Don't forget labor and down time costs too. Since no one is really throwing a fit about it and it is functional, no real pressure to swap it out. For me personally, I like a standard throttle, but also like the fine adjustments you can make with it in certain phases of flight. Like anything, there are pros and cons. The important thing is it gets me in the air and takes me where I want to go.
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Re: Vernier Throttle ?

Iv'e used both and bought the Maule with the Vernier. After a couple of years I got use to it but I found flying back country the heel of my thumb was always on the button and my hand was not relaxed which interfered with the soft touch I like to have at landing. Instructors hate the Vernier throttle if they feel the need to take control. Since I replaced the Vernier with the friction I wished I had done it the first week instead of trying to make the Vernier work for me.
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Re: Vernier Throttle ?

I flew a 175 for a few months that had a Vernier. I hated it. It had a sticky button lock, so I had to push the button then giggle the throttle knob in and out to get it to unlock. I found myself always pushing the button to be sure it was unlocked and ready for a power input on final. I like Verniers on prop and mixture, but never again on throttle!
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Re: Vernier Throttle ?

dirtstrip wrote:What do you prefer for a throttle. I have a fixed prop on my Tundra so I don't really need the dial in ability of rpm control but I do have the Vernier throttle. When I fly the Cub I find the fine touches on the throttle much quicker for the little adjustments at landing instead of squeezing the button of the Vernier. The button gets to be automatic but I know its slower. Anyone ever seen a button lock for a Vernier?



i agree with mongo on this one, standard throttle is the way to go. i fly formation with a group of guys, if your airplane has the vernier, you can;t fly, period, it's too hard to manage.good luck with your choice.
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