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What has 4 engines and a boom out the back?

Did not have a camera!!
Had a 4 engines, similar to a DC6 or Convair flying low level southbound over Lake Roosevelt yesterday
I think it was a recip? Could have been a Turbo Prop?? Kind of saw it thru the trees!
Had a what looked like a fixed boom about a 1/4 length of the fuselage, sticking out behind it? Looked rigid?
Any Ideas, I saw it one other time about 6 years ago over the Pend Oreille River when I was fire spotting?? Again very low level?
Never was very close!
Was lower than I fly most of the time!!
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Re: What has 4 engines and a boom out the back?

P-3 perhaps? I seem them heading your way out of NAS Whidbey. Practicing low level with the boom extended? I don't know if they have that kind of sound though.
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soggyc wrote:P-3 perhaps? I seem them heading your way out of NAS Whidbey. Practicing low level with the boom extended? I don't know if they have that kind of sound though.


Yep, that was it, looked it up!
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Re: What has 4 engines and a boom out the back?

Was it orange or grey? The Navy a a couple painted orange with longer booms than standard on the P3, they do geomagnetic survey at low level all over the world. They track the movement of the earth's magnetic pole and field strength (its where the little chart of isogonic lines comes from), based out of Pax River.
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Re: What has 4 engines and a boom out the back?

dogpilot wrote:Was it orange or grey? The Navy a a couple painted orange with longer booms than standard on the P3, they do geomagnetic survey at low level all over the world. They track the movement of the earth's magnetic pole and field strength (its where the little chart of isogonic lines comes from), based out of Pax River.


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Re: What has 4 engines and a boom out the back?

There's a gray one that comes over here to Central Oregon to do T&G's at Redmond fairly often. I've always assumed they are from Portland but I don't know for sure. One evening I was doing touch and go's in the 180 when he showed up and the tower decided to put him on the intersecting runway (he was on runway 22 and I was on 10). I kept it as tight and fast as I could and on every mid field down wind he was on the runway and when I was on the runway adding power he was mid field downwind! It was a cool site to have him out my window on every pass! We managed about 8 rounds of that with perfect spacing before he left the area!

I believe there are some P3 Orion's used in firefighting as well.

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Re: What has 4 engines and a boom out the back?

They come over from Whidbey and shoot approaches into Kalispel (FCA) quite often. When they're doing circuits, they orbit our place...
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Re: What has 4 engines and a boom out the back?

We see them from Whidbey here at MWH intermittently also.
(MWH used to be Larson AFB-a SAC base, so plenty of runway...)
I also see them shooting approaches at Pasco about 70 mi. south of here, which was an army air base in WWII.

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Re: What has 4 engines and a boom out the back?

The P3 Orion is being replaced with the Boeing P-8 Poseidon but there are still plenty of P3s flying around.

Also, the EA-6B Prower is being replaced and plenty of the Growlers are now flying around=


The End Of An Era: The Transition From The Prowler To The Growler

By David Parker Brown, on April 25th, 2012 at 4:45 am


An EA-18G Growler sits at NAS Whidbey. Photo by Alex Jossi.
An EA-18G Growler sits at NAS Whidbey. Photo by Alex Jossi.

I grew up knowing the Navy’s EA-6B Prowler very well — my father flew them for about 20 years. The aircraft was made tough, but all planes need to be replaced sooner or later. Recently, the Navy has started the transition from the EA-6B Prowler to the FA-18 based EA-18G Growler. Reader Alex Jossi had the opportunity to do some photography of the new Growler and was willing to write up a story on the aircraft. Here is his story in his own words:

Thanks to a friend and local aviation photographer, a handful of us guys were able to take photos at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island. It was a treat to get some of the CAG birds, many of which have already been retired in the five weeks since we made the trek up north from the Portland area. I have it on pretty good hunch that they had us photograph those particular Prowlers for a reason. It was like saying goodbye to an old friend. But all good things eventually come to an end. For those of you who may not know, CAG birds are aircraft for a unit with special paint jobs, either on the entire aircraft itself or a special design on the tail. Typically, but not always, these aircraft are flown by the commander of the unit for which the aircraft belongs to. Similar terms for CAG birds include: “Show Bird”, “Easter Egg”, “Boss Machine”, and “Head Nuts”.

An older EA-6B that is being phased out. Photo by Alex Jossi.
An older EA-6B that is being phased out. Photo by Alex Jossi.

The United States Navy is slowly phasing out the EA-6B Prowlers in favor of the newer and more advanced EA-18G Growlers. The Prowler’s initial deployment was in 1972 in Asia. It also saw combat later during Operations Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. In 1994, it was selected to become the sole tactical radar support jammer for all services. Today, Prowler aircraft are a high-demand, low density military asset used quite heavily in the war on terrorism.

The new ICAP III System, first delivered in 2005, has performed beyond expectations in its combat deployments during Iraqi Freedom. However, the four-crew electronic attack aircraft (one pilot, three electronic countermeasures officers) are aging, and are less fuel economic than the newer Growlers. They can’t keep getting repaired; therefore, it is necessary and feasible that they be replaced.

As capable as the Prowler is, the Growler is much newer and much more capable. The EA-18G Growler’s ALQ-218 wideband receiver and ALQ-99 tactical jamming system will be more effective in preventing ground-to-air attacks. Its Modular ALQ-227 Communication Countermeasure Set enables it to counter a wider range of communication systems and can readily adapt to current threats.

Reaching initial operational capability in 2009, the EA-18G Growler program leverages proven processes developed through the Super Hornet Program (the EA-18G Growler is a variant of the F/A-18F Super Hornet) and is recognized as an aircraft that will ensure a low-risk executable program that will remain on schedule, under weight, and an aircraft that will provide significant cost savings.

EA-18G Growler for VAQ-135. Photo by Alex Jossi.
EA-18G Growler for VAQ-135. Photo by Alex Jossi.

That being said, there is still a sense of nostalgia surrounding the Prowlers that will never go away. Those who view retired aircraft of the past with admiration, know what I’m talking about. The Prowler will soon be one of those many “old friends” that we will never get to see again in the same capacity that they can be seen now. It is one of those aircraft joining the ranks of “get them while you can” that will soon be just another “airplane on a pole” as so many aircraft have before.
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