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Ok EB this sounds good and it's not to far from you..located in Elko, NV
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52Romeo wrote:Ok EB this sounds good and it's not to far from you..located in Elko, NV
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Not LSA 52Romeo. Thanks. I think I found it.
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That Super Sky Raider has a zero time Jabiru. The guy that has the yellow plane in most of my vids has a Jabiru in his plane. Nice engine runs smooth and sips gas. As long as it is a late model Jabiru it should be fine. Way better than any 2 stroke.
The super Raider has dual controls and a bigger back seat.
Not a highlander but 1/3 the cost.
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S-12Flyer wrote:That Super Sky Raider has a zero time Jabiru. The guy that has the yellow plane in most of my vids has a Jabiru in his plane. Nice engine runs smooth and sips gas. As long as it is a late model Jabiru it should be fine. Way better than any 2 stroke.
The super Raider has dual controls and a bigger back seat.
Not a highlander but 1/3 the cost.
A super thanks for the heads up my friend. I had no idea those were out there. My wife would much prefer a SBS but I must honestly say that I doubt she'll be in it all that much. I called on it and it's for real. It's also 20 miles or so from the factory. I hope I can pull this off. As I mentioned in the other thread, it has to be trailered home because it hasn't had any taxi or flight testing. I need to establish my home airport as the 40 hour flyoff center.

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Would you be interested in a Weedhopper? [-o< It's a clean little one owner with skis and a two seater kit, no suspension maintenance required other than new manure cart tires from time to time. Do all the low altitude barnstorming you want and not get caught because it has no tail #, you can get spare parts from your snowmobile dealer and EZ can show you how to make money on the deal when you're done with it.
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Nosedragger wrote:Would you be interested in a Weedhopper? [-o< It's a clean little one owner with skis and a two seater kit, no suspension maintenance required other than new manure cart tires from time to time. Do all the low altitude barnstorming you want and not get caught because it has no tail #, you can get spare parts from your snowmobile dealer and EZ can show you how to make money on the deal when you're done with it.

No thanks, not today. But if I get to the point where I need some more airplanes I'll look you up. I've seen those little farts before and with the right power they can be a lot of fun I'm sure.

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Is non-LSA a deal-breaker? Medical certificate issues or what? There are some good deals out there on regular old airplanes these days. I know of a 160-horse PA-22/20 Pacer that just got sold, not sure exactly what it sold for but the asking price was $20K. It wasn't a show winner, of course, but it looked to be a pretty decent utility grade airplane. Pacers are fun to fly and very practical for camping etc.
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hotrod150 wrote:Is non-LSA a deal-breaker? Medical certificate issues or what? There are some good deals out there on regular old airplanes these days. I know of a 160-horse PA-22/20 Pacer that just got sold, not sure exactly what it sold for but the asking price was $20K. It wasn't a show winner, of course, but it looked to be a pretty decent utility grade airplane. Pacers are fun to fly and very practical for camping etc.
Yeah, it's an or what? There's a 165hp Stinson out there right now thats a show plane for probably under $20K. This little Sky Raider will keep me plenty happy. I might even put a transponder in it. Drive Tracon nuts.

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From the sounds of this, it appears you bought a Skyraider already? If so, congrats and many happy flights.
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EZFlap wrote:From the sounds of this, it appears you bought a Skyraider already? If so, congrats and many happy flights.
I haven't. But I'm starting the process; some sort of inspection first. This is an interesting case Bill. This is a new experimental airplane. It needs to have a taxi and flight test program set up; however canned that might be. It's got an N number but it's never even been to the airport. I need to go see it obviously but I can't just go fly it. The factory is close by the airplane and I'm hoping today to get some input from them. I may go take an intro flight with them and have someone look at the airplane. The builder's son said that a factory rep had been by several times during the building stage. Find that guy. The builder died 3 years ago and it has been sitting in the garage for a long time, so what does that mean with regard to the engine? Call Jabiru and find out. That sort of stuff.

I've talked up 2 airplanes in my search here, but this one has a target on it. I suspect most people are more circumspect about these things. Obviously I'm not. :lol: I was going to head down this morning for a BFR in a Decathlon but maybe I can get it at the Factory? Can you get reviewed in a Factory experimental demonstrator? That would be cool. I know you can do it in your own. I need to find a trailer no matter what because of the 40 hour fly off requirement. That has to happen here; not in Idaho. Joey has one but I'm not sure if he's keen on lending/renting it out. That sort of thing. I've never owned an new airplane :roll:

Oh, and I need to get a couple of I heart California T shirts to wear when I'm up there.
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Emory Bored wrote: Can you get reviewed in a Factory experimental demonstrator? That would be cool. I know you can do it in your own. I need to find a trailer no matter what because of the 40 hour fly off requirement. That has to happen here; not in Idaho. Joey has one but I'm not sure if he's keen on lending/renting it out. That sort of thing. I've never owned an new airplane :roll:

Oh, and I need to get a couple of I heart California T shirts to wear when I'm up there.


I know of no reason you can't get reviewed in an experimental, yours or another if the instructor is comfortable doing it. I asked for that same thing on my last BFR but the instructor did not want to do it in an unfamiliar aircraft. No big hurt there, C150 $90/hr wet with instructor. Good luck on this adventure.
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Emory Bored wrote: There's a 165hp Stinson out there right now thats a show plane for probably under $20K.
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So where's this Stinson listed at :?: :D :?:

I hauled a plane 700miles on a 4-place snowmobile trailer; it worked good and might be easier to find than a purpose built trailer. U-haul trucks work nice to move planes; they have the lowest decks out of all the rental trucks.
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dirtstrip wrote: I know of no reason you can't get reviewed in an experimental, yours or another if the instructor is comfortable doing it. I asked for that same thing on my last BFR but the instructor did not want to do it in an unfamiliar aircraft........


The CFI is just along for the ride on a flight review to put the reviewee through his paces. He might want to take the controls to demonstrate the proper way to do something, but he/she is not the PIC. Unless your airplane is something pretty far out there (like a flying car or something :roll: ), I'd think the instructor would welcome the chance to fly in something a little different & maybe learn something new his own self. Looks like you own a Dream Tundra- most people I know would jump at the chance to fly in one.
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Emory Bored wrote: There's a 165hp Stinson out there right now thats a show plane for probably under $20K.
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So where's this Stinson listed at :?: :D :?:

I hauled a plane 700miles on a 4-place snowmobile trailer; it worked good and might be easier to find than a purpose built trailer. U-haul trucks work nice to move planes; they have the lowest decks out of all the rental trucks.
He's asking $22 but hinted at a lower price. I don't think it would be fair to disclose my negotiation with him. It's out of annual.
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I showed my wife a list of candidates for this caper. The Sky Raider, An Avid IV, and a couple of others. She likes this one the best: http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/Sin ... 82124.html

Aren't those Ohio boys close to WV? Can you imagine 3000 miles at 70 miles an hour? East to West? :shock: :shock:

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I would highly recommend sitting in one first. The seats do not adjust at all and the are a tad narrow. I have a good friend with one and it is a very nice aircraft. But it is slow and a bit noisy. It is an awesome short field plane but somewhat lacking in creature comforts for cross-country flights. Again, I would try it before you buy it. The 701 is not for everyone. Also, that one has been on the market a long time. Most 701's sell quickly if they are in good shape.
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S-12Flyer wrote:I would highly recommend sitting in one first. The seats do not adjust at all and the are a tad narrow. I have a good friend with one and it is a very nice aircraft. But it is slow and a bit noisy. It is an awesome short field plane but somewhat lacking in creature comforts for cross-country flights. Again, I would try it before you buy it. The 701 is not for everyone. Also, that one has been on the market a long time. Most 701's sell quickly if they are in good shape.
I have noticed the long market time too. I sent the dealer the 20 questions this evening. I would need one of the Ohio boys to take a look first before spending the air miles to fly out there.

Rick still has access to the one he had before he bought the Tripacer. I have an open invite to drive down for a ride. This week and weekend are full up but I may be in a position to get down there soon for a test flight. I need to call Rick. I'm not a big dude, and have pretty short legs. I would imagine Zenith has solutions for pilot comfort provided I could get it home. Lots of cushions? I doubt there is too little leg room, I have a 29" inseam. That's a long way at those speeds though. It's probably 20 miles an hour slower than yours. Forty five hours of flight time maybe? :shock: Maybe I should get another Mooney [-X It would be the trip of a lifetime I bet :D


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Re: What to buy, what to buy

This was on the Highlander Just Aircraft Forum recently:

bluemax Post subject: Re: Hints for Picking Up Kit at FactoryPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:03 am


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Location: Newark, Ohio Wow. . . that kit doesn't take up much space in that 16 ft. truck. Looks like a winner.

I found out the best way to rent a truck for a long trip is to rent it locally, but as a "one way". According to the salesman, with unlimited mileage, I can rent the 16 footer for about $400, drive it round trip to Walhalla (over 1000 miles), and turn it in about 5 miles away. If I rent it as a "local" move, it will cost me over $1000, including the mileage.

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It would be more practical for the Skyraider than the 701 due to the distances.
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Re: What to buy, what to buy

Emory,
I had the early CH701, by early I mean it was rated for 960 lbs gross and the standard engine was the Rotax 582. Later, when Zenith adopted the 912 for their engine of choice, the weight limit was increased to 1100 to accommodate it. I think the design change was only a reinforced wing with some extra ribs. What you need to ask is if this is the 960 gross model. The year is stated as 97 but that is not the kit production year but the manufacture year, meaning the year it was completed by the builder. If it is a 960 gross model with a 912 added then you are up against a tighter useful load. My 701 was 520 empty with the 582 (110 lbs installed) and large tires. It held 15 gallons of fuel. The 1100 lb models with a 912 usually had two 10 gallon wing tanks for 20 gal.

Here is how mine looked: 960 lb - 520 = 440 and with 15 gal. gas = 90 lb dropping it to 350 lbs. To use the 960 gross model and repower with the 912 (140 lbs installed) then you lose an additional 30 lbs and now can haul only 300. Obviously this would not work for everyone to carry a passsenger. But could be ok for the pilot and some gear. It is also why I repowered with the Simonini in my older 701, it was the same weight as the 582 but 92 hp. The plane with the extra weight of the 912 will fly just fine and will handle a little over gross fine too but beware that you are tight going into the deal and be sure to know it before signing the dotted line.

If it is the 1100 lb gross model then it would be great, but if it is not then it explains why the plane has been for sale so long.

Also mine made 75- 80 on a good day and flew a little nose high. With a heavier engine I would expect it to lower the nose some and add to the cruise. Small changes are big on this plane.
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