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26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

Desser lists the 26/10.5-6 GY's at $748 with tubes. So $1500 for the set.
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Plus Tubes? I dunno just want to make sure you are all seeing the full picture :D
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

Hottshot wrote:29" x 10 airhawks: $1055.00
29" x 10 shaved airhawks: $1055.00


So is the shaving free of charge? Also, how much weight do you normally take off the tire with this procedure?

I'm leaning more and more towards these wheels/tires. Now just need to find the money... #-o
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

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Hottshot wrote:29" x 10 airhawks: $1055.00
29" x 10 shaved airhawks: $1055.00


So is the shaving free of charge? Also, how much weight do you normally take off the tire with this procedure?

I'm leaning more and more towards these wheels/tires. Now just need to find the money... #-o




99% are shaved that go out the door so they are on the shelf as often as we can.
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

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Plus Tubes? I dunno just want to make sure you are all seeing the full picture :D


Hey I already got bushwheels and love em! :D Just answering Hotrod's question.
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

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Hottshot wrote:29" x 10 airhawks: $1055.00
29" x 10 shaved airhawks: $1055.00


So is the shaving free of charge? Also, how much weight do you normally take off the tire with this procedure?

I'm leaning more and more towards these wheels/tires. Now just need to find the money... #-o


According to this http://www.alaskatundratires.com/prices.html Shaved 29's are 24lbs plus 4.38lbs for the tube.
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Plus Tubes? I dunno just want to make sure you are all seeing the full picture :D


Hey I already got bushwheels and love em! :D Just answering Hotrod's question.



I know but the question is does that include tubes? if not how much cuz you can't install with out them so what is total cost? just trying to get all the info in one place rather than hunt for it.
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Oregon180 wrote:
Hottshot wrote:29" x 10 airhawks: $1055.00
29" x 10 shaved airhawks: $1055.00


So is the shaving free of charge? Also, how much weight do you normally take off the tire with this procedure?

I'm leaning more and more towards these wheels/tires. Now just need to find the money... #-o


According to this http://www.alaskatundratires.com/prices.html Shaved 29's are 24lbs plus 4.38lbs for the tube.



See pict of shaved 29 w/ tube installed on page one of this post.

THey also list the*Cleveland 6" wheel with brake rotor
5.75 lbs But Parker list them at 7.25lb and we have.....

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Just want you guys to have the facts and all the info you might need.
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

I think that $679 price must be tires only. Desser had them for about the same price. So with tubes, about $1500 for the pair-- quite a bit more than the 29" airhawks or the 850x10 airtracs, if the prices posted for those include tubes. Though on the plus side, you don't need to buy new 10" wheels or the Gar adapters for the 26" blimpies.
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

geez just get the 29 11 10's and be done with it... you won't be sorry and a year from now you won't remember the cost.. I forgot my cost, and I'm sorry I read the above cost post...but there's been a price increase since I bought my new brakes tires and wheels..and when i got them I weighed them just to be sure of weight... .43lbs mounted on the wheels... but I am happy with them so far...I'll be even happier July 18th when I land at JC and spend 10 days flying and fishing idaho again... :D
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

Hottshot wrote:I know but the question is does that include tubes? if not how much cuz you can't install with out them so what is total cost? just trying to get all the info in one place rather than hunt for it.


I just did a quick google search and came up with that, looks like tires only. Tubes are another 100+ each side.
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

With the useful load I will have I'm not concerned about weight. My main concern is the amount of pavement my plane will see. I don't frequent pavement much except at my home airport but my dad, whom I will still be partners with on the new plane, only goes off roading when he flies with me. If I decide to go with 29" airhawks then AKB is the only option IMO. I don't want to mess with trying to bond and adapter to my wheel then always wonder in the back of my mind if it is going to come apart. Maybe I'll get lucky and they will close the tower at IDA and my problem will be solved; I'll just buy bushwheels and land on the grass.
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Scolopax wrote:Look forward to learning more Whee. The Goodyears are just sitting in my hangar. The owner is not aggressively selling them. I asked him about them and he said he'd sell them for a pretty good price with tubes.

I might be interested in them if Whee passes. Would be a decent upgrade from the 800's on my S-7.
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whee wrote:With the useful load I will have I'm not concerned about weight. My main concern is the amount of pavement my plane will see. I don't frequent pavement much except at my home airport but my dad, whom I will still be partners with on the new plane, only goes off roading when he flies with me. If I decide to go with 29" airhawks then AKB is the only option IMO. I don't want to mess with trying to bond and adapter to my wheel then always wonder in the back of my mind if it is going to come apart. Maybe I'll get lucky and they will close the tower at IDA and my problem will be solved; I'll just buy bushwheels and land on the grass.

Does that mean you are not planning on bringing your new plane to Meeker?
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

S-12Flyer wrote:Does that mean you are not planning on bringing your new plane to Meeker?


Since the airport will be closed till October I probably won't bring it down till next spring. I'm not going to have much time to fly for fun till then anyways.
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whee wrote:With the useful load I will have I'm not concerned about weight. My main concern is the amount of pavement my plane will see. I don't frequent pavement much except at my home airport but my dad, whom I will still be partners with on the new plane, only goes off roading when he flies with me. If I decide to go with 29" airhawks then AKB is the only option IMO. I don't want to mess with trying to bond and adapter to my wheel then always wonder in the back of my mind if it is going to come apart. Maybe I'll get lucky and they will close the tower at IDA and my problem will be solved; I'll just buy bushwheels and land on the grass.


Whee,

Don't fret the bonding of the wheel adapters....just stick em good. I ran a set on my Cub for years and never an issue....bonded them well, with more stick-um than recommended. I've run them on 185s, 206s etc, and well stuck they're not a problem.

That said, if I were going to do it today, I'd go with AK Bushwheels' 10 inch wheels and brakes. Much better setup, and you can sell your 6 inch wheels to defray cost if you'd like.

BUT, if you can live with little pavement, you'll never regret buying a set of AK Bushwheels......of any size.

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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

oh I don't know.... My airhawks even with shaving seem to not be wearing much at all and I"m based at a paved airport. but then treaded tires are supposed to wear better than the bushwheels which are treadless..
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

Anyone know if the gar aero adapters will work on grove 6" wheels?
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

whee wrote:Glad you asked this. These are the two options I'll be looking at when I get the deal done on my new plane.


+1 for this comment
I have been wondering how much utility 26's offer over 8.50's. The 29" size seems popular.
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Re: 26 Good Years or 29 Airhawks?

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whee wrote:Glad you asked this. These are the two options I'll be looking at when I get the deal done on my new plane.


+1 for this comment
I have been wondering how much utility 26's offer over 8.50's. The 29" size seems popular.


I've now flown with 8.50x6's, 26 Goodyears, and 29 Bushwheels.
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My experience with MY 185:

The 26 Goodyears were a big improvement on floatation over the 8.50's, and with a negligible impact on cruise speed. They lessen the impact felt at landing. They definitely boosted my confidence off airport. Weight difference was noticeable. As others have said "They wear like iron" - on all surfaces. Ramp appeal is certainly better as well.

The 29's are amazing in both positive and negative ways:

1. The AOA they provide on takeoff is excellent.
2. The confidence boost they provide is excellent.
3. The off airport performance they offer is excellent.
4. They eliminate most anything felt at landing. ("Your going to run over the tire that marks the beginning of the runway"...."What tire? I don't see a tire.")
5. The ramp appeal is excellent.
6. The cruise speed hit I took was large, somewhere between 10 - 15 mph, probably closer to 15. With a tail wind I can negate some of it by going high. Headwind no.
7. Weight difference over the 26's is definitely noticeable.
8. Braking effectiveness is much reduced.
9. It's well documented they are very unhappy on pavement, and that is NOT what they are intended for. But they are also unhappy on any surface as hard as or nearly as hard as pavement.

Note: In purchasing the 185 I wasn't looking to buy a Jeep, I was looking to buy a Raptor. Go off road but also go fast, go high, carry four people, full fuel, and all our gear - and the 185 does that well.

I have no regrets on buying either the 26's or the 29's. Time will tell which one ends up the permanent shoes for the wagon, perhaps both will - I certainly will not go back to the 8.50x6's.
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