Can I keep the round tail !!!!

contactflying wrote:With airplanes as light as 170 or Pacer, and at airspeeds slow enough to land safely with little likelihood of damaging anything, trim should have little effect on control feel. Things pretty much like a wet noodle. Quite a bit of control movement with little pressure. Throttle works really good. Rudder and elevator are weak but effective. Move them until you get what you want. Aileron should be neutral with wing level or neutral with wing banked into crosswind. Yes, we can go full aileron into the crosswind when down so long as we don't try to drive with the yoke.

Don’t know how much time you have in a Pacer, but I firmly disagree with you here. If the airplane has a jackscrew and trimmable horizontal trim is very important with low airspeed.

I owned a Pacer and the same can be said for my 180.

I owned three back in the day. Wire to crank jackscrew was broke on one. I didn't climb much so seemed a chore for takeoff and landing. I just kept it in position for cruise. But I did the same with all light airplanes. Yes, an overloaded Pawnee needed trim to hold the nose up until a couple of swaths could be sprayed off.

I understand trim usage is good form. So is landing slow enough that there is little relative wind against the controls. There should be some prop blast, however.

For me, the 180 is a big mean machine. Never owned one so mostly let the student or Bi-annual pilot work the trim.