Well, I before today I thought I wanted a 180. After today, I am sure I want a 180!

I hooked up with our own Quickdraw1's cousin at Harrison County, Ohio Airport for my first intro to the 180. Jason (the owner) has both a sweet 55' 180 and also a cherry, all original 66' 185. It was a good day. I think its gonna cost me in the long run!


Getting hot already at 730 AM


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The chariot






Workin on 22 squared


The 185 in the original paint/scheme







John, thanks for introducing me to Jason. He is very knowledgeable and passionate about this line of airplanes. Good to have people nearby that are! This site is such a great networking tool.

It's a proven FACT that There's no better airplane than a '55 C180.

I've really enjoyed watching your aviation journey and can't wait to se what you end up with next. My prediction is that you're going to have a tough time getting rid of the cub and will buy a 180 anyways There are some sweet looking ones out there for sale right now.

CW

Holy crap! Both of those birds are beautiful!!!

I've flown in a 185 before, never a 180. I'd LOVE to fly in an early 180!

Hope it works out for you to get one.

I believe his '55 was for sale six months or so ago. I wasn't in a place to buy, it and continue to wish it was still on the market.

All the best!

If you haven't sold that Savage Cub already, keep it------ and buy a 180 too! That's about the perfect combination of airplanes to cover all your bases. I really like my 180, bought around 9 months ago now, but sometimes a smaller lighter low and slow bird fits the day's mission a little better.
Didn't Quickdraw's cousin or brother or somebody have a 180 for sale recently that he posted about? Looked like a nice airplane with a lot of good features for a very attractive price. Probably long gone by now though.

CamTom12 wrote:Holy crap! Both of those birds are beautiful!!!

I've flown in a 185 before, never a 180. I'd LOVE to fly in an early 180!

Is 62 early enough? I'll give you a ride in august!
Good on ya Evan! Good luck shedding the 180 fever. But I agree with hotrod that you should keep the savage and buy a 180 if you could swing it. I really miss my citabria for putting down the river and stopping on most of the gravel bars...

Does it ever really get better? Or does it just get bigger, and more expensive? I dunno. The wife and I were talking about houses we've had through the years the other night? We had a 2800 footer in Worshington and moved into 1400 feet on Kivalina Street in Fairbanks. We were very happy there. Now we're back in a 2200 footer on a golf course. A golf course? I don't even play any more because of the aches and pain. I wish I had the place on Kivalina and a condo in Florida for deep winter. Maybe there's no parallel there at all. Never mind. Follow your dreams.

The 180 itch is very hard to get rid of. I learned to fly in my Dad's 180 as a teenager. He sold the plane in 96. I have wanted one ever since. I let common sense and my wallet keep me from my dream plane for many years, I have owned several planes since then and a little over a year ago finally bought a 180.

I don't need a tail dragger, for that matter I don't need an airplane, a good old straight tail 182 is the same airplane, and I have owned a few of them. I just always wanted a 180. Well I have one and now all I want to do is mod it up. It never ends.

If I could kick this aviation habit, I could afford to get a nicer car, bigger house, maybe even retire and take a trip abroad. It enters my mind every once in a while, then I see the 180 sitting in my yard, ready to make my aviation dreams come true. It sits there with it's nose up in the air, pointing to where we should be. With lines like no other plane, It's beauty is un matched in my eyes.

You have only flown one once. If you see a good shrink or quit flying , you may have a chance of not becoming addicted to the 180. One more flight and the addiction will take over your mind. Obsession follows shortly there after. Then comes the urges, shopping for the one for you. You will think you have found the right one, only to find out the paper work is sloppy or the ground loop repairs are shotty.

The day finally arrives, you have your dream plane, you are getting to know it inside and out. You notice a bad spot of paint, torn carpet, hazy glass. You wish it had more power, shorter take off performance, more useful load. The mods begin.

Bigger tires are first, extended baggage, fire wall battery and bush interior will be next. And the list goes on and on.

Keep your Cub for when the 180 is out of commision, getting the upgrades accomplished. My brother and I have an old Avid Flyer that is cheap and fun to fly. It is just enough airplane to quench my aviation thirst on those evenings after work is done and you need to get your fix.

You have tasted the 180 sweetness, either turn and run or be ready for a very rewarding experience.

I think Cliff pretty much summed it up.

Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement. As far as the 54 that Quickdraw had posted about prior, I was a bit late getting to that one. I called about it and the broker that had it was interested in trading, but it ended up selling to a prior owner the very next day.

Well, since the consensus is that I should keep the Savage and also buy a 180, I will be setting up a gofundme page where you all can make donations to my cause.

I would love to keep the Savage and go buy a 180. But its just not in the cards for me right now. I could save my money, and wait and have two airplanes, but I have a lot of other things going on that I want to work on and those things require COINAGE! Like my own airport! I love it. Truth be told, when my 180 is down, I should be working on my property, not out flying!!! Ha.

I am actively looking, calling people, and trying to do some trading, and also not getting in to big a hurry. I still have not listed the Savage anywhere other than here. I guess part of me still wants to hang on to it. I am one of those people that believes while you have to go get what you want, also you should also wait for the situation to feel right. I have found that I can be slightly impulsive, and the best medicine for that is to not do a thing. I will continue to search, and read, and learn, and talk to others about their experiences. This is the best way to approach this, at least for me. The right plane will find me.

The goal here is to do multiple things at once. First off, I want to put time in my logbook in a full size, 4 place airframe. I have plans for the future and that involves me and a commercial license. Secondly, I am working on my IFR ticket right now. I want to have an airplane at my disposal to (A)stay instrument proficient in, and (B)be confident in that airplane to take it into the crud if necessary. It is hard for me to feel confident in a rental anyway, let alone into the shit. Third, I want something that will carry the stuff it takes to take two people away into a remote area for a week at a time, basically unsupported. Like a friend told me today, this stuff is all about ADVENTURE. I want to take more adventures, to further destinations. And with someone else. This stuff is too good to keep it all to ourselves. I want the people in my life to see it from our point of view. It is something special. Fouth, I want to take those adventures in a fast, comfortable, and good looking airplane!

I know that a 182 will perform 90+% of the missions that a 180 will. But I have been lassoed by the tailwheel addiction. And it is hard to shake once you get it. Exactly like the 180 addiction. Ha -The tailwheel and the 180 bug together. You know, like cocaine and heroin in the same needle. Lets call it, the Speedball addiction!

cliff wrote:The 180 itch is very hard to get rid of. I learned to fly in my Dad's 180 as a teenager. He sold the plane in 96. I have wanted one ever since. I let common sense and my wallet keep me from my dream plane for many years, I have owned several planes since then and a little over a year ago finally bought a 180.

I don't need a tail dragger, for that matter I don't need an airplane, a good old straight tail 182 is the same airplane, and I have owned a few of them. I just always wanted a 180. Well I have one and now all I want to do is mod it up. It never ends.

If I could kick this aviation habit, I could afford to get a nicer car, bigger house, maybe even retire and take a trip abroad. It enters my mind every once in a while, then I see the 180 sitting in my yard, ready to make my aviation dreams come true. It sits there with it's nose up in the air, pointing to where we should be. With lines like no other plane, It's beauty is un matched in my eyes.

You have only flown one once. If you see a good shrink or quit flying , you may have a chance of not becoming addicted to the 180. One more flight and the addiction will take over your mind. Obsession follows shortly there after. Then comes the urges, shopping for the one for you. You will think you have found the right one, only to find out the paper work is sloppy or the ground loop repairs are shotty.

The day finally arrives, you have your dream plane, you are getting to know it inside and out. You notice a bad spot of paint, torn carpet, hazy glass. You wish it had more power, shorter take off performance, more useful load. The mods begin.

Bigger tires are first, extended baggage, fire wall battery and bush interior will be next. And the list goes on and on.

Keep your Cub for when the 180 is out of commision, getting the upgrades accomplished. My brother and I have an old Avid Flyer that is cheap and fun to fly. It is just enough airplane to quench my aviation thirst on those evenings after work is done and you need to get your fix.

You have tasted the 180 sweetness, either turn and run or be ready for a very rewarding experience.

This sounds about right to me. I am ok with that.

Crzyivan13 wrote:I am actively looking, calling people, and trying to do some trading, and also not getting in to big a hurry. I still have not listed the Savage anywhere other than here. I guess part of me still wants to hang on to it. I am one of those people that believes while you have to go get what you want, also you should also wait for the situation to feel right. I have found that I can be slightly impulsive, and the best medicine for that is to not do a thing. I will continue to search, and read, and learn, and talk to others about their experiences. This is the best way to approach this, at least for me. The right plane will find me.

I don't know much about buying and selling airplanes, but I'll tell you that this feels right to me.

Now go flying in that awesome Savage and take some sweet pictures for us stuck on the ground!

We just bought a '55 180 last February and i have a couple hundred hours in Super Cubs. I wouldn't hesitate going into the extreme fields that are in the posted videos in the SuperCub, but I wouldn't take the 180 into 75% of what I've seen. So like everyone else said, they are two very different planes with different sweet spots that should be matched to the pilot's mission.

Dan

Having tread down this path for almost five years here's my thoughts...180 is an amazing plane that fits so many missions and has never let me down performance wise, ok 1959 182TW conversion for the purists out there. However, if I could do it all over again, I'd be looking real hard at the Cyclone experimental 180. I got lucky and didn't really have to drop a dime for 800 hours, the last 800 hours not so much [emoji28]. The thing about certified cessna's is that parts are absurdly expensive and often inadequate compared to what is available but not certified.

Hope this doesn't sound negative cause that's not what I intend, but as a 31 year old dude that dang near lives out of his airplane and flies almost every day, money is important and parts cost a lot of $$$ for these birds. Hopefully the good old days of GA are around the corner, but realistically experimental is the way to go if your not gonna work your 180. Food for thought...

All that said, I have zero regrets and I get the biggest kick out of flying these Cessna's, it only gets better as u get more proficient. Soy Anarchisto said it best once, we're like the Cubans keeping our fleet of 50's Chevy's running, only difference is something like a used fuel selector cost $2300 and is hard to find, it never ends [emoji33]

Oh yeah, if possible keep the Savage!!!!!!!

I am so glad that you and Jason had a chance to meet up and go flying. It sounds like you guys had a great time. The pictures you took are fantastic. When the 185 is good to go you should ask him to go flying in that beast. Oh my is that out of this world. Get ready to get your '60s on. In the background there should be playing break on through to the other side by the Doors. I think that Jim lives in that plane some where. I look forward to meeting you in the near future and hope you and Jason fly again.

You and I have discussed this before but they are great airplanes and one poster stated that there is no better plane than a 55 180. I have loved that 180's / 185's since I was in kindergarten, that is when our grandfather bought the '55. Some people my be pissed when I say this but they are the best planes that ever was made. There not to many planes that are STOL, haul a load, fly 140mph(170mph 185) and can be IFR. Good luck with this addiction and getting one. I know that you are torn on the cub but if you want to fly IFR the 180 is a better platform for that. Our Grandfather got his IFR ticket in a 180 in the mid '50's and flew IFR in 180's for 50 years. Just food for thought. As you can tell my family loves 180's.

Good luck on your adventure and have FUN!

Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement. As far as the 54 that Quickdraw had posted about prior, I was a bit late getting to that one. I called about it and the broker that had it was interested in trading, but it ended up selling to a prior owner the very next day.

Its for sale again. PM me if you want the guys phone number. Former owner bought it to resell. I flew it a couple hours last week with a prospective buyer. Flys straight and is really smooth engine prop combo. Asking price now is 60k.

I know what your saying mate! I took this one for a full day burn a while ago and where before I loved the 180....now I crave it!!

Crzyivan13 wrote:Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement. As far as the 54 that Quickdraw had posted about prior, I was a bit late getting to that one. I called about it and the broker that had it was interested in trading, but it ended up selling to a prior owner the very next day.

Well, since the consensus is that I should keep the Savage and also buy a 180, I will be setting up a gofundme page where you all can make donations to my cause.

I would love to keep the Savage and go buy a 180. But its just not in the cards for me right now. I could save my money, and wait and have two airplanes, but I have a lot of other things going on that I want to work on and those things require COINAGE! Like my own airport! I love it. Truth be told, when my 180 is down, I should be working on my property, not out flying!!! Ha.

I am actively looking, calling people, and trying to do some trading, and also not getting in to big a hurry. I still have not listed the Savage anywhere other than here. I guess part of me still wants to hang on to it. I am one of those people that believes while you have to go get what you want, also you should also wait for the situation to feel right. I have found that I can be slightly impulsive, and the best medicine for that is to not do a thing. I will continue to search, and read, and learn, and talk to others about their experiences. This is the best way to approach this, at least for me. The right plane will find me.

The goal here is to do multiple things at once. First off, I want to put time in my logbook in a full size, 4 place airframe. I have plans for the future and that involves me and a commercial license. Secondly, I am working on my IFR ticket right now. I want to have an airplane at my disposal to (A)stay instrument proficient in, and (B)be confident in that airplane to take it into the crud if necessary. It is hard for me to feel confident in a rental anyway, let alone into the shit. Third, I want something that will carry the stuff it takes to take two people away into a remote area for a week at a time, basically unsupported. Like a friend told me today, this stuff is all about ADVENTURE. I want to take more adventures, to further destinations. And with someone else. This stuff is too good to keep it all to ourselves. I want the people in my life to see it from our point of view. It is something special. Fouth, I want to take those adventures in a fast, comfortable, and good looking airplane!

I know that a 182 will perform 90+% of the missions that a 180 will. But I have been lassoed by the tailwheel addiction. And it is hard to shake once you get it. Exactly like the 180 addiction. Ha -The tailwheel and the 180 bug together. You know, like cocaine and heroin in the same needle. Lets call it, the Speedball addiction!

Very well said. Damn we think alike...

kase wrote:

Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement. As far as the 54 that Quickdraw had posted about prior, I was a bit late getting to that one. I called about it and the broker that had it was interested in trading, but it ended up selling to a prior owner the very next day.

Its for sale again. PM me if you want the guys phone number. Former owner bought it to resell. I flew it a couple hours last week with a prospective buyer. Flys straight and is really smooth engine prop combo. Asking price now is 60k.

I saw this coming from a mile away! Still seems like a decent price for the airplane, though.