https://backcountrypilot.org/knowledge- ... cessna-205

Grassstrippilot and I have been working up a Knowledge Base entry for the 205. He is pretty enthusiastic about his, and it serves him well as he hauls his family of 5 around in it from Idaho to Alaska.

As with anything in the KB, suggestions, additions, and changes are welcome. It can be a lot of work to compile STC links and even field approval copies. Other 205 owners are welcome to help.

Want to start an entry for an aircraft type we don't yet have? See here: Contributing to the aircraft knowledge base.

Edit: Scratched the "Super Skylane" moniker as it's not verifiable as a common name.

Zzz wrote:https://backcountrypilot.org/knowledge-base/aircraft/184-cessna-205

Grassstrippilot and I have been working up a Knowledge Base entry for the 205. He is pretty enthusiastic about his, and it serves him well as he hauls his family of 5 around in it from Idaho to Alaska.

As with anything in the KB, suggestions, additions, and changes are welcome. It can be a lot of work to compile STC links and even field approval copies. Other 205 owners are welcome to help.

Want to start an entry for an aircraft type we don't yet have? See here: Contributing to the aircraft knowledge base.

Superb write-up and great info on 205's. Cory, RFinkle-Rich and Tango Fox-Trent have all been exceptional human databases for me on Cessna 205's and we're lucky they frequent this site.

One small correction to the 205 KB is that Cessna built the first year or two (Trent..?) 206's with the same smaller Stab/Elevator as the 205, one of which is parked a hangar next to us. Another site mentions this:

"The early 206s had a smaller elevator that resulted in an ugly nose drop when flaring. Owners of those planes are known to carry extra weight in the rear to help prevent a nose-wheel-first landing. Cessna corrected that problem in the later 1960s."

https://disciplesofflight.com/cessna-206-stationair/

Hard to keep up with all of these changes Well done BCP!

Yes the "bull nose" 206's had a small tail similar to the 205 although the shape of the counterbalance is different. I think they changed to a bigger horizontal in 69-70 ish?

Small tails work fine you just need to carry a little power on final to get more air over the tail.

Also the 205 wasn't called a Super Skylane, it had no name, just a number 210-5 (205).

The Super Skylane was a P206 which had essentially the same fuselage as the 205 but 206 wings.

Thanks for the corrections guys. And Trent is right about the name...I found a few different references ranging from no name to a couple different names. I finally settled on Super Skylane when dealing with ATC because that is what SLC center told me I came up as when they put the C205 in their system.

FWIW, from wiki (when googling "skywagon"):
"Cessna Skywagon may mean:
Cessna 180 Skywagon
Cessna 185 Skywagon
Cessna 206 (also 205 and 207), known variously as the Super Skywagon, Skywagon, Stationair, and Super Skylane"

and when googling "super skylane":

"The Cessna 205, 206, and 207, known primarily as the Stationair (and marketed variously as the Super Skywagon, Skywagon and Super Skylane) are a family of single-engined, general aviation aircraft with fixed landing gear, used in commercial air service and also for personal use."

Yup! That’s why I was so confused and posted a thread entitled something like “What am I!?” when I bought my 205. It was definitely an experiment to see if there was a market for such a plane and never probably thought about naming it! Recently we’ve found a bunch of original brochures introducing the plane. I’m pretty sure they never referenced a name but I’ll have to go check again.


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The 205 is an awesome airplane, great write up. I am a new owner, 8 weeks and 65ish hours so far, but absolutely love it. Wife, kids, dogs, gear all fit no problem. Fuel burn has been impressive so far, on a trip last week to Michigan and back I averaged 12 gph and 130kts at 11,500 feet. Only issue I have is that I live in southeast PA and don't get to land anywhere interesting

I attempted the "Super Skylane" name on the radio because I hate being called out to other traffic as a skyhawk. I was asked a few times what on earth a Super Skylane was a few times on the CTAF.

Get Gamis and your fuel will drop to 10-10.5 gph at 2300 RPM. Runs great LOP.


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Oh, and check out the 205 owners FB page. It’s a good meeting place and exchange of info. FYI, if you use FF and need a w&b profile, I can send you one.


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I do use FF, if you could send, that would be excellent. I definitely looked at Gami's a bit, I don't have any kind of decent engine monitoring, just the old single point EGT and CHT. Wasn't sure if I'd get much benefit if I don't have the instrumentation to take full advantage and get the spread right.

Yeah, to take full advantage you’d need something. I highly recommend getting one. I’m a big believer in their use to be able to see what is going on with your engine and to help trouble shoot any issues that arise. Even just a jpi 700 works well and gives you all you need. And they are fairly easy to come by used. And the savings in fuel will pay for both it and the Gamis in short order if you’re flying much.

Pm me your email and I’ll send it to you.


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205Pilot wrote:I attempted the "Super Skylane" name on the radio because I hate being called out to other traffic as a skyhawk. I was asked a few times what on earth a Super Skylane was a few times on the CTAF.

ATC: "Stop trying to make that a thing, 205"

Just plane old Cessna works unless it burns kerosene or has folding rollers.

That’s what I use unless dealing with an ATC entity that says “say type”. Luckily that doesn’t happen very often.


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Grassstrippilot wrote:That’s what I use unless dealing with an ATC entity that says “say type”. Luckily that doesn’t happen very often.


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"Type" is a C205. That's on page A33, Appendix A of the FAA's JO Order 7360.1 dated September 25, 2015. That Order also lists the common names for each of the designated airplanes, but Super Skylane only appears under C206. There is no common name for a C205, apparently, at least according to that Order. Here's the link: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/med ... 7360.1.pdf

It's interesting how many different names are listed for some of the airplanes. I can just hear it now, when ATC asks what type Cessna, if I were to say (instead of my usual answer, 172), "P172 Skyhawk Powermatic". Most of today's controllers wouldn't have the slightest idea what that is. I can't tell you how many times I've said that I own a P172D, and someone who ought to know better says, "Is that pressurized?" Better for me to stick with "hotrod 172" when I'm talking to others and "172" when I'm talking to ATC.

Cary

Dug up this old pic of Gary's 1966 C206. Name on the yokes is "Super Skywagon"

Does the 205 have the same nose landing gear as the 206?

The 205 has the same gear set up as the 182. I’m not sure if the early 206s are the same or if that change didn’t come until later when other things, like the new lower cowl, changed. I’d suspect they are the same and that it didn’t change until later. Trent?


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Grassstrippilot wrote:The 205 has the same gear set up as the 182. I’m not sure if the early 206s are the same or if that change didn’t come until later when other things, like the new lower cowl, changed. I’d suspect they are the same and that it didn’t change until later. Trent?


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I have a 66 P206 and it's already the same as the later 206. I think all of the 206s came this way...

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Good to know. Thanks!


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