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Fuel Prices

Was just wondering, since we have such a wide ranging group here, what gas prices are getting to in your area. Here in San Diego at Gillespie field they Gouge us at almost $4.00 a gallon. Most of us fly to cheaper gas in the so cal area. Big Bear is $3.30 a gal last time I was up there. Corona is about the cheapest and is close to Big Bear. We never can figure why or how Big Bear can always beat the other guys since they have to haul gas up there in trucks all the way up that mountain. Just wondering if there's much of a difference where you guys are... Iceman
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The cheapest non-bulk rate that I've found here is $3.79/gal. It went up .20 last week. Miserable Bastards.........
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A good link that has the majority of the best prices can be found at http://www.airnav.com/fuel/greatdeals/

This one will irritate you:

More info about Washington Airport
Phillips 66
AS
100LL
$2.63
Jet A
$2.75
Updated 05-Feb-2007
AS=Assisted/Self Service

That's less than we're paying for autogas...

BTW, O22 Columbia is at 3.95
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It just amazes me that most folks selling fuel use to enjoy a profit of .25 cents now its a $1 minimum. One of the cheapest in northern Ca. is Colusa @3.26 and they are making a buck on each gallon. I think the next load may even be less money. I think many price gouging crooks are raising prices so if the tax bill passes they can blame the whole hike on them.
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$3.05 at FCM Eden Prairie, Minnesota

Some times it is the local taxes that make avgas more expensive.

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I'm paying 3.60 agallon here next to D.C. but thats because my shop gives a fuel discount if you annual w/ them. A transient would pay 3.90 a gal. Seems close to you guys.
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Paying $4.23 per gallon at SLC, and that is with a 30 cent discount! Just 10 minutes to the north at Ogden, fuel is $3.05 gallon.
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I think they're getting about $3.60 or maybe 3.80 at Port Townsend. 100LL and car gas prices have been inching down for a while. Our car gas here at $2.47 or so is still above what the TV news sez is the national average. There's at least two big refineries near here too (Cherry Point and Anacortes) that get crude right off the tankers that come into Puget Sound, it's not like they have to haul it a long ways....

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Here at KGTF in northcentral Montana, it's $3.85 for self serve and $4.15 if the line guy at the FBO pumps it from his truck. 88 octane autogas is $2.11 so it pays to have the autogas STC.

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Yeah buddy...MoGas is the way to go. $2.10 / gallon for 87 octane before we take out the road taxes. That makes it somethwere around $1.75 per gallon. \:D/
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$2.88 for self service in Lee's Summit, MO
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The cost of gas seems to be inversely proportional to how much is being sold. Here at Auburn (KAUN) the fuel is 3.89...a solid thirty cents higher than anywhere within 100 miles. At the little Cameron Air Park ten minutes south it's 3.35, and at the one-horse mountain town of Quincy it's 3.25 a gallon. I doubt Quincy pumps forty gallons a day even on the weekend.

Of course Auburn has a good restaurant on the field and CHP is stationed out of here, so they sell a lot of gas. Last summer Auburn was .89 higher than Georgetown, also ten minutes away.
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Cable Airport in Upland, California as of yesterday when I purchased fuel 100LL was $3.60 gal and I think Jet A was .30 cheaper...
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ravi wrote:The cost of gas seems to be inversely proportional to how much is being sold.


That is exactly the case. Assuming your airports operate the same as those around here it works like this.

***Hypothetical #s for ease of comparison***

Airport A pumps out 10,000 gal / month and charges based on cost of fuel
Airport B pumps out 2,500 gal / month and charges based on cost of fuel
Both airports have 2,500 gallon storage tanks

Day 1 - The bulk price of fuel for airports is $1.50 / gal. and they sell it for .50 profit making the pump price $2.00 / gal.

Day 8 - Airport A orders a new load of fuel and the cost has increased to $2.00 / gal. making the new pump price $2.50. Airport B is still operating off the fuel purchased at $1.50 / gal and continues to make a .50 profit charging $2.00 / gallon

Day 15 - Airport A orders a new load of fuel and the cost has increased to $2.50 / gal. making the new pump price $3.00. Airport B is still operating off the fuel purchased at $1.50 / gal and continues to make a .50 profit charging $2.00 / gallon.

Day 23 - Airport A orders a new load of fuel and the cost has increased to $3.00 / gal. making the new pump price $3.50. Airport B is still operating off the fuel purchased at $1.50 / gal and continues to make a .50 profit charging $2.00 / gallon.

Day 30 - Airport A orders a new load of fuel and the cost has decreased back to $2.50 / gal. making the new pump price $3.00. Airport B has to order a new load of fuel and must increase their price at the pump to $3.00 / gal to continue making a .50 / gallon profit.

In this example you can see how the smaller airport can often charge less for the fuel and continue to make a profit. Many airports change their prices based on the current competition which allows for more profit to be made if you are the little man, but still allows you to offer the lowest prices around.
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lowflybye wrote:
ravi wrote:The cost of gas seems to be inversely proportional to how much is being sold.


That is exactly the case. Assuming your airports operate the same as those around here it works like this.

***Hypothetical #s for ease of comparison***



That may be correct a lot of the time but other times fuel prices seem to make no sense. Take for instance VGT (North Las Vegas) They always are on the low side, price wise, and I know they sell a heck of a lot of fuel. Go figure...
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Gustine, California at $3.11.9
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Wild Bill wrote:Gustine, California at $3.11.9


I saw that after flying directly over Gustine last Sunday on my way home to O22 Columbia, where I paid 3.95.

My flight management skills leave a lot to be desired ;-)

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N6EA, Tracy, where I'm based at, is at $3.95.9, so I fly to Gustine and save some money. Modesto is at $3.48.9 the last time I looked.
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$3.85 a gallon at McCall. A 15minute flight to Council and you pay $3.45. That stock 150horse lyc. loves the $2.30 mogas.
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Unfortunately, the210c can't take Mo gas. One of the things I miss I had with my PA 22. Iceman
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