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Helio hunting

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Re: Helio hunting

Thats him, thanks.
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Re: Helio hunting

Thanks everyone for all the info and contacts. I'm in learning mode right now and appreciate everything.
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Just saw this Phil. I am very excited to be the next caretaker of this beautiful 185. Just beginning to scratch the surface of what it is capable of doing but already loving it! Have picture of the Skywagon and my Husky at Rekalw a couple of weeks ago and then couple with the fresh paint. Will get some with it cleaned up and in flight ASAP. Good luck Helio Hunting!

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Re: Helio hunting

My neighbor mentioned that he is looking to sell his Helio. If you are interested I could give you his contact information.

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Nizina wrote:My neighbor mentioned that he is looking to sell his Helio. If you are interested I could give you his contact information.

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Please, I’d appreciate that.


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Barnstormer wrote:
Nizina wrote:My neighbor mentioned that he is looking to sell his Helio. If you are interested I could give you his contact information.

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Please, I’d appreciate that.


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That plane looks super sweet!
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Re: Helio hunting

Hey 295, I am confused about something you said, "happens a lot to me, the confusion not the something you said" anyway you say something about controlling the slats so that they come in after the flaps?
My experience with Helios is that the slats are strictly automatic, pushed in by air pressure and deployed by springs. This is one of the things that can get you in trouble if you get low and slow in gusty wind.
Please illuminate me>

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Re: Helio hunting

Fraser Farmer wrote:
daedaluscan wrote:There is a guy in Northern BC who does nothing but Helios. I will get you contact details.

If you're thinking of Jim Danish it's 250-699-6392.


I hear Danish is out of business or will be shortly. I was looking at a Moose up there last year. That was a very 'old school' operation.
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shorton wrote:Hey 295, I am confused about something you said, "happens a lot to me, the confusion not the something you said" anyway you say something about controlling the slats so that they come in after the flaps?
My experience with Helios is that the slats are strictly automatic, pushed in by air pressure and deployed by springs. This is one of the things that can get you in trouble if you get low and slow in gusty wind.
Please illuminate me>

Shane


Sorry to answer a question directed at 295, but the slats extend at a specific AOA. You can control their deployment pretty precisely with pitch control. It's definitely a clever and functional arrangement.
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Re: Helio hunting

We call those “q controlled slats” in the biz.
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Re: Helio hunting

I came across a guy selling a helio today. PM if you want his info. I don’t know much about it other than it’s in Anchorage and may not be listed anywhere yet.
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Re: Helio hunting

Shane, it has already been posted but Helio slats are strictly air pressure/AOA operated. As such they are fantastic angle of attack indicators. On take off, fly it off just a hint flatter than a 3-point attitude and slowly push the nose over to half way between 3-point attitude and level flight. The slats will retract nice and smooth at that AOA and the airplane should be climbing pretty nicely depending on weight. Once the slats are in and positive rate of climb is verified then you can start bringing the flaps in but keep that same AOA!

Landing is getting slow and getting some flap in and maintain that same AOA used on climb out and slowly pull out the power and add in more flaps, At about 200-300 feet pull the nose up into a hair less than a 3-point attitude and the slats should come out nice and smooth. Then just motor it to the ground with a bit of power.

Flying the slats is a good way to fly the Helio. No springs in them, no levers, just AOA. Sure wind gusts will push them in, but if there is enough airflow over the wing to close a slat, there is enough airflow over the wing for it to happily fly with out the slat open. Even in gusts with the slats bouncing in and out the plane flies really quite well. To be honest, if the slats are bouncing around it probably means you just aren't coming in slow enough.
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Re: Helio hunting

If anyone is looking for a Helio, a friend of mine mentioned he would part with one of his. Probably a good deal to be had for someone. PM me if interested and I'll pass on contact info.
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Re: Helio hunting

Barnstormer wrote:I recently sold my 185 to a good friend. The first thing he is doing is getting the Sportsman STOL and WingX that I installed painted. It's looking really sharp. If we are lucky he will post some pictures here.

So now I'm on the hunt for a Helio. .



There is a Helio that has been sitting on the ramp for about 2 years at Homer. at least one aileron has been removed for some reason. Looks like a nice airplane. I dont know the owner but it might be worth inquiring about???

I'm outside for the winter but maybe you can track down information???
Possibly Headoutdaplane could get an n number from it??

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Re: Helio hunting

Scolopax wrote:I have a handful of hours in a Helio H-250.

It is here in central Oregon, and you could probably pick it up well below market value.


Are you in the Redmond area?

Someone used to have a Courier at Valley View (5S9) just outside of Estacada, OR. Ever get up that way or see that aircraft?
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Re: Helio hunting

I don’t know anything about Helios, this one in Brarstormers claims to be the first, anyone know about this?

https://www.barnstormers.com/classified ... urier.html
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Re: Helio hunting

RKTX wrote:I don’t know anything about Helios, this one in Brarstormers claims to be the first, anyone know about this?

https://www.barnstormers.com/classified ... urier.html


I saw her parked in front of the big red barn at OSH last summer, looked like she was in great shape. The claim to be the 1st is legit as far as I know, I believe the story is that she was the factory demonstrator for a long time.
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