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Lycoming O-540 making metal+2012 Annual update

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Re: Lycoming O-540 making metal.

Rob, glad u caught the problems early! hope u have good luck with the fresh motor, be careful for sure. try to treat that big 540 with care. i know that the "run em hard" crowd still says that, but u might just fly it normal and let it live to TBO...

one thing i've learned about air-cooled motors in all my years, is that they work a lot different than most people think...some will tell u that they run all the knobs forward all the time, but i dare say that a lot of those same people dont have to pay for the motors they toast. if u fly mine by the book, which is 23 sq, about all u accomplish is a lot of fuel burn and a u build a lot of heat to manage, and u gain a whole 5 knots...! pulled back fuel is at 12gph, and cht's never over 365...lots smoother and quieter...and i run the best fuel i can get hold of....i save the high revs and such for the short stuff...
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Hurry,
We still have a camping trip to do this year in Sandy!
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jomac wrote:Rob, glad u caught the problems early! hope u have good luck with the fresh motor, be careful for sure. try to treat that big 540 with care. i know that the "run em hard" crowd still says that, but u might just fly it normal and let it live to TBO...

one thing i've learned about air-cooled motors in all my years, is that they work a lot different than most people think...some will tell u that they run all the knobs forward all the time, but i dare say that a lot of those same people dont have to pay for the motors they toast. if u fly mine by the book, which is 23 sq, about all u accomplish is a lot of fuel burn and a u build a lot of heat to manage, and u gain a whole 5 knots...! pulled back fuel is at 12gph, and cht's never over 365...lots smoother and quieter...and i run the best fuel i can get hold of....i save the high revs and such for the short stuff...


Agree jomac...the harder you run it, the more you are going to have problems. As one mechanic told me years ago, there are only so many horsepower hours in your engine..the faster you run them out, the shorter the lifespan. I have built and rebuilt many motors for our racecars over the years..we race them hard, maintaine them well but they will never last like the family sedan. On the average in our dirt track car, we went through that engine every three weeks to keep it reliable..wait too many more races to tear it down and it tore itself up.
Rob you did the right thing with your teardown..no better place to have a breakdown than at home!
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Re: Lycoming O-540 making metal.

Guys overhaul engines so many different ways. Some take the used parts to service limits. Some use reground cam and tappets. Some take used parts off wrecked planes that are with in service service limits. Some use new. They all say I had my engine overhauled. When I use the term re manufactured I mean it is overhauled to NEW clearances not service limits. Suffice it to say, the more new parts you put in the better end product.

The only used parts in my overhaul are the cases, rocker arms with new bushings, oil pan, rods, crank all checked for defects, push rod tubes, and rocker covers. Everything else is new, never been on a airplane, new. From Lycoming, new.

Probably over kill but them mountains I fly over don't look like a place for a E landing.

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Deep breaths. We are 1 week past the estimate when my engine would be done. Not going to make 2 week either. Being told Lycoming has not shipped new cylinders yet. WTF? for heaven sakes. They should ship the same day they are ordered.

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OregonMaule wrote:....They should ship the same day they are ordered.

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That is the beauty of this lean business propaganda. Companies choose to not have extra inventory around to make their costs look good on paper. So you "normally" send out x sets of parts a week so you only carry that many. Then there is this friendly fellow with a O-540 that makes metal early, the x+2 person to order parts that week, and he gets to wait until his number is called. Customer service is where they suffer.

I see that at the car dealership. I tell them I have something broken on my car and make an appointment to have it fixed. I go drop it off and they order the part after I drop the car off. "That will take us a couple of days to get the part in." I'm thinking, I told you what the problem was when I made my appointment. Maybe they can plan ahead a little bit. It is just bad service....
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OregonMaule wrote:Deep breaths. We are 1 week past the estimate when my engine would be done. Not going to make 2 week either. Being told Lycoming has not shipped new cylinders yet. WTF? for heaven sakes. They should ship the same day they are ordered.

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Rob... I feel your pain... :(

Since you opted for factory new cylinders there is no core charge for the old ones as Lycoming does not do anything to them except send them to the crusher..... May I suggest you give them to me so I can "tweak" them for a friends experimental... I will pay the freight bill and offer you some "compensation" for the offer.. :wink: :wink: ...

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Thing are so slow right now that they have to run down to the bar and get a couple guy off unemployment to build your cylinders :wink: Just kiddin, It should be worth the wait.
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OregonMaule wrote:Deep breaths. We are 1 week past the estimate when my engine would be done. Not going to make 2 week either. Being told Lycoming has not shipped new cylinders yet. WTF? for heaven sakes. They should ship the same day they are ordered.


Avoidable delays unfortunately seem to be the norm in aviation. When the dust settles, if you were only held up a month or so on an engine overhaul, you're way ahead of the game from what I've seen.
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I got some good news from the engine shop. Jim said it shouldn't be much longer till we have all the new parts from Lycoming. ha ha what does that really mean?

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Let me know when you're back up and runnin' Rob, we need to go fly! :D
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Ya hurry up Rob, before I move! :D
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Get that plane running Rob, your sanity depends on it. :!:
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Re: Lycoming O-540 making metal.

scottnt wrote:Let me know when you're back up and runnin' Rob, we need to go fly! :D

I'll call you first thing Scott. :D

Tadpole wrote:Ya hurry up Rob, before I move! :D

Don't move I here the apple growers were short on pickers this year.

mountainmatt wrote:Get that plane running Rob, your sanity depends on it. :!:

Might be a little late.

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Re: Lycoming O-540 making metal.

The update today.

I have everything except the cylinders, fuel pump and harness. Lycoming is closed for elections. Will try to get word on Wednesday.

I didn’t get notification but they may have shipped.

Will let you know as soon as I hear.

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OregonMaule wrote:The update today.

I have everything except the cylinders, fuel pump and harness. Lycoming is closed for elections. Will try to get word on Wednesday.

I didn’t get notification but they may have shipped.

Will let you know as soon as I hear.

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Re: Lycoming O-540 making metal.

OregonMaule wrote:The update today.

I have everything except the cylinders, fuel pump and harness. Lycoming is closed for elections. Will try to get word on Wednesday.

I didn’t get notification but they may have shipped.

Will let you know as soon as I hear.

Jim


Closed for elections. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Most normal people vote before work, or during their lunch hour or on the way home after work..... This country is headed to the toilet at mach speed........

Friggin wimps, :o :o :o Need the day off to vote.... God help us.. #-o [-o< [-o< =D>

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Stol wrote:
OregonMaule wrote:The update today.

I have everything except the cylinders, fuel pump and harness. Lycoming is closed for elections. Will try to get word on Wednesday.

I didn’t get notification but they may have shipped.

Will let you know as soon as I hear.

Jim


Closed for elections. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Most normal people vote before work, or during their lunch hour or on the way home after work..... This country is headed to the toilet at mach speed........

Friggin wimps, :o :o :o Need the day off to vote.... God help us.. #-o [-o< [-o< =D>

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Most normal people vote before work, or during their lunch hour or on the way home after work


Can anyone explain to me why we need to vote on a Tuesday? If you want to or have to vote in person, seems this makes it harder on the working stiff.

Do they think we will not use our Saturday or Sunday to go to the polls?

In a country where fewer than 50% of the people make the decision for 100% of the people we need to find ways to make it simpler or at least seem more important . Although I have no idea what would be more important, outside an emergency, than choosing the people who create the laws of the land.

It is a Republic and its success depends upon whom we send to represent us.

Stepping off soap box now.

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TomD wrote:.....In a country where fewer than 50% of the people make the decision for 100% of the people we need to find ways to make it simpler or at least seem more important . Although I have no idea what would be more important, outside an emergency, than choosing the people who create the laws of the land......


My county went to vote-by-mail years ago, I believe all of Washington with the possible exception of one or two counties is vote by mail now. And ballot return rate is still pathetic. The only way to make it any easier to to provide a pre-marked ballot :roll:
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