That shower works as advertised. We have one. It's big and heavy though. You'll need a Maule to haul it around.

Thanks for that, gb. You made me laugh! Now, lessee . . . bikes, rods, big top tent, cook bag, fish bag, boot bag, ice chest, food bags, clothes bags, toiletries bag (can't for get the gels and creams), portable table, folding chairs, inflatable kayak, Six Burner Coleman Stove, AND the shower . . . . Looks like I'll need a belly pod AND a cargo bag strapped to the top of the cabin--filled with helium balloons. Definitely need a Maule for that.

CAVU

My apologies for getting involved with this thread and comments.

58Skylane wrote:My apologies for getting involved with this thread and comments.

Pat, get that POS Cessna of yours flying, and I'll get my POS Cessna in the air, and meet us at any dry lake or old roadway you'd like in the vast desert wastelands of Nevada.

Beers, barbecue, good company, and a couple ratty old airplanes... Don't need high dollar or fancy for that.

Gump

58Skylane wrote:My apologies for getting involved with this thread and comments.

I don't think you need to apologize for anything. We all have our opinions, and shy of intentionally insulting someone, no apologies are necessary.

Zzz wrote:

58Skylane wrote:My apologies for getting involved with this thread and comments.

I don't think you need to apologize for anything. We all have our opinions, and shy of intentionally insulting someone, no apologies are necessary.

You all know I have thick skin. Just got thinking I have no business butting into somebody's private business and private property.

GumpAir wrote:

58Skylane wrote:My apologies for getting involved with this thread and comments.

Pat, get that POS Cessna of yours flying, and I'll get my POS Cessna in the air, and meet us at any dry lake or old roadway you'd like in the vast desert wastelands of Nevada.

Beers, barbecue, good company, and a couple ratty old airplanes... Don't need high dollar or fancy for that.

Gump

Haha! And you, me and a few others know of some good spots between Boise and your neck of the woods (sagebrush).

Getting closer on the plane. I was told sometime after Labor Day I can move my plane into Performance Air's shop. But last I heard, they are still swamped!! I think I'm last on the list. That's ok. It's only been a few years. What's a couple of more months?

How to make a small fortune. Start with a large fortune, add a know it all attitude just because you graduated from a prestigious "b" school, piss off your existing customer base. Ignore past histories of failed lodge business plans. Yep, I smell a bankruptcy already in the wind. Just the beginning of the wreckage of another failed lodge. ( there's literally hundreds in Alaska that have gone after the $$$ crowd and failed) -Oh and by the way, lots of us "Gulfstream guys" have little bug smashers too.(185s, 206s, Cubs/Husky etc.) Thanks for the warning, steering clear!

RockHopper wrote:How to make a small fortune. Start with a large fortune, add a know it all attitude just because you graduated from a prestigious "b" school, piss off your existing customer base. Ignore past histories of failed lodge business plans. Yep, I smell a bankruptcy already in the wind. Just the beginning of the wreckage of another failed lodge. ( there's literally hundreds in Alaska that have gone after the $$$ crowd and failed) -Oh and by the way, lots of us "Gulfstream guys" have little bug smashers too.(185s, 206s, Cubs/Husky etc.) Thanks for the warning, steering clear!

Ya know I was going to steer clear of this thread and just sit back and learn, but I think you hit the nail right on the head. One key to success is to have something or a service that people either need or want. Another key is to be able to continue to be able to keep up with demand. Another is to have a customer base to stay successful.

The problem with success is not being successful, but to continue to be successful is almost more work than getting there.

BTW I didn't start with a large fortune I started with not much of anything, now I have a little more than I started with and ill leave everything when I'm finished.

OregonMaule wrote:
It makes me laugh how pilots can be so cheap sometimes. Flying machines worth tens of thousands of dollars If not hundreds of thousands of dollars and cost around a hundred dollars an hour to fly.



Cheers

Ain't that the F'ing truth!

exodus wrote:

OregonMaule wrote:
It makes me laugh how pilots can be so cheap sometimes. Flying machines worth tens of thousands of dollars If not hundreds of thousands of dollars and cost around a hundred dollars an hour to fly.



Cheers

Ain't that the F'ing truth!

Must be the whiskey talking? Don't forget, there's pilots of all different income levels here.

About the only point I was trying to HELP with is that why cut off "Drop In" traffic when they more than likely "Help" your business either grow or sustain its future.

But what do we know? Heck, they might be booked up for the next 5,10,20 years and don't need to fuss with drop ins. That's awesome for them if that's the case. Heck, I really don't even care, so way in I even beating a dead horse here??

I gotta get back to work so this cheapo low income spam can driver can get his plane fixed and running. And be lucky if I can afford to fly it 4-8 hours a month. Good thing Idaho still sells Non-Eth fuel, too. Maybe that 10-12 bucks an hour I save I can save up a night to stay at Mackay Bar. Or just put the $300.00 in my fuel tank and save for the next annual.

Forgot to add....... I took no offence, BTW. Just giving my 2cents.

iceman wrote:oh well... it's still a nice place to fly over... passed it up last July on the way to Elk City when I heard we weren't welcome... too bad.. lets see we still have Flying B, Sulphur creek, Big Creek (soon) Smiley Creek, Castle creek?, Root ranch, Elk City, Elk RIver,Dixie town and I'm sure one or two more... no big loss... Good luck there Joni.....

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Grassstrippilot wrote:

iceman wrote:oh well... it's still a nice place to fly over... passed it up last July on the way to Elk City when I heard we weren't welcome... too bad.. lets see we still have Flying B, Sulphur creek, Big Creek (soon) Smiley Creek, Castle creek?, Root ranch, Elk City, Elk RIver,Dixie town and I'm sure one or two more... no big loss... Good luck there Joni.....

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"It makes me laugh how pilots can be so cheap sometimes. Flying machines worth tens of thousands of dollars If not hundreds of thousands of dollars and cost around a hundred dollars an hour to fly."

Rob, if money's no object send me some In my biz I've got 3 good customers that pay me a combined about $2 million a year, then I've got about another about 15-20 that pay about another $1 million a year (I call that fill as in fill in the gap). That other $1 mill sure helps put money in my pocket, which helps put gas in the plane.

58Skylane wrote:

exodus wrote:

OregonMaule wrote:
It makes me laugh how pilots can be so cheap sometimes. Flying machines worth tens of thousands of dollars If not hundreds of thousands of dollars and cost around a hundred dollars an hour to fly.



Cheers

Ain't that the F'ing truth!

Must be the whiskey talking? Don't forget, there's pilots of all different income levels here.

About the only point I was trying to HELP with is that why cut off "Drop In" traffic when they more than likely "Help" your business either grow or sustain its future.

But what do we know? Heck, they might be booked up for the next 5,10,20 years and don't need to fuss with drop ins. That's awesome for them if that's the case. Heck, I really don't even care, so way in I even beating a dead horse here??

I gotta get back to work so this cheapo low income spam can driver can get his plane fixed and running. And be lucky if I can afford to fly it 4-8 hours a month. Good thing Idaho still sells Non-Eth fuel, too. Maybe that 10-12 bucks an hour I save I can save up a night to stay at Mackay Bar. Or just put the $300.00 in my fuel tank and save for the next annual.

Forgot to add....... I took no offence, BTW. Just giving my 2cents.

Great post 58. I agree 100%. I'm with you in that I gotta work my ass off to put gas in the plane. But its still worth every penny and I'll keep doing that instead of buying an RV, boat, or new vehicle.