I know where someone could get an awsome deal right now, on a turbine Maule.... PM me if interested, and I'll send ya in the right direction.... I'm just passin on info.

Coyote Ugly wrote:I know where someone could get an awsome deal right now, on a turbine Maule.... PM me if interested, and I'll send ya in the right direction.... I'm just passin on info.

Yea I bet, looking through some of these ads I'm seen LOTS of good deals, I wonder what the market will look like in 6 months.

Coyote Ugly wrote:I know where someone could get an awsome deal right now, on a turbine Maule.... PM me if interested, and I'll send ya in the right direction.... I'm just passin on info.

That'll be a tough sell. A friend of mine has a Turbine 210, his pilot geared it up. Took off the engine and transmission and sent to the manufacturer for inspection. $250K and there was nothing to fix. Needed a new prop of course. $25K. Still needed to fix the bent sheet metal on the belly, probably $25K there. Another guy around here, one of the Apollo astronauts, over temped his turbine Birdog while trying to start it. Toast. Another couple hundred thousand up in smoke. You need cubic money to have a turbine.

Fantastic thread! Thanks to all for the insight. Any new words on the topic? Can concur on the insurance statement. Here in Alaska it's crazy expensive. I could hear the cash register ring in the back ground when I had the insurance guy on the phone once I told him the address.

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Hahaha.

They don't make Skywagons anymore and the market price reflects that. They're still making Maules!

FWIW, 220 M4 is a Kick Ass Hotrod!!

Tick,
I've been shopping too and have really become enamored of the Maule line. Then my pal an AA captain and a veteran 180 driver came down pretty hard on me. Says there's a reason for the lower prices, including build quality. Next choice? a 180 HP 1980 C-172. One thing that steers me away from the Maule is insurance. For a MXT-180 they bump the qualifications up several notches. For a taildragger they want 10 hours dual and another ten in type solo. For anything over 200 HP it gets even crazier.
Still, some of those Maules seem to have great capability. Let us know how it goes, and I'll do the same.
Jim

DocFry wrote:I've been shopping too and have really become enamored of the Maule line. Then my pal an AA captain and a veteran 180 driver came down pretty hard on me. Says there's a reason for the lower prices, including build quality.

Doc...no disrespect to you or your AA buddy, but does he have any real first hand experience to go with his "coming down"? If he does, then obviously that's his opinion. Everybody's got one.

But just beware there's a lot of folks out there that will bash the hell out of a Maule based on what they've heard....from someone that heard from a buddy's buddy that read it on a forum one time.

Seems like you'll get positive feedback from
9 of 10 legit Maule owners/operators. And seems like 9 out of 10 times that someone makes blanket negative remarks about a Maule, they have zero credibility or experience to back up their claims.

Insurance will be higher right off the bat with no make/model/tailwheel time. However, with a little time in the logbook and no claims, it will quickly become reasonable. If not, you're using the wrong company. Go shopping.

A Maule is a Maule. It's not a Skywagon or a Super Cub or a Bonanza. It's a Maule. And it's a respectable platform for doing what we do.

Different, yes. Lesser quality, no.

Good luck shopping.
Ross

Some times a 180 driver just can't come to terms with a Maule!!
Has he ever flown one?
If he has, did it try to bite him, cause if he flew it like his 180, it will!!
Some people hatem, some lovem, Myself if I never fly another 180-185-206 will not make me cry any tears!!
Have as much fun as is legal!

I'm one of the 9/10 folks that owns and flies a Maule and loves it. I wouldn't trade my cavernous baggage opening for any other aircraft in its class. I used to take my dog on a lot of flights with me and that massive side opening sure made it easier to get my coon hound in and out of the plane. The fact that the back seat pops out without any tools (just a few fast pins) adds to my positive opinion of the plane. Getting in and out of it is a bit tougher than a Cessna, but easier than a Cub. I've flown mine from the Pacific to the Atlantic and back as well as to a lot of backcountry strips and have never wished for anything else. So, get a balanced set of opinions before settling on one. Then, spend some time in the planes before you make up your mind. I flew to Maule Flight and got a couple of hours of dual before making up my mind to buy one. I think spending some PIC time in any plane before you buy one is a good idea.

Flyhound wrote:... get a balanced set of opinions before settling on one. Then, spend some time in the planes before you make up your mind. I flew to Maule Flight and got a couple of hours of dual before making up my mind to buy one. I think spending some PIC time in any plane before you buy one is a good idea. ...

Probably the best suggestion / comment in this whole thread.
I own a C180 and love it, but not long ago flew with a friend in his M7/235 and thought it was a fine airplane too.
Pros and cons to each, just like anything else.

Anyone looking for a Maule should check this other thread out, looks like a damn good deal on an M4/210.

https://backcountrypilot.org/forum/topi ... ead#unread

RWM wrote:

Insurance will be higher right off the bat with no make/model/tailwheel time.

I'm curious what the insurance situation is like for Tricycle gear Maules ? Is the "Maule insurance Shock" only for the tail draggers?

Denali wrote:RWM wrote:

Insurance will be higher right off the bat with no make/model/tailwheel time.

I'm curious what the insurance situation is like for Tricycle gear Maules ? Is the "Maule insurance Shock" only for the tail draggers?

It's fairly shocking on trikes, too. Small population keeps rates up compared to others with a higher population to spreads costs across.

I pay $1300 a year for $115,000.00 on a 2000 M7 235 HP tailwheel. I have 1800 hours in type and IFR.I am interested to here from a Cessna 180-185 with the same approximate hull value and pilot credentials.

Cheers...Rob

I will stay out of the insurance debate. I, like Rob, get pretty decent rates with over 1k hrs in type.

I will say that the cost of parts for the Maule is downright cheap compared to Cessna; therefore, as ownership goes along your cost of maintenance will be lower.

Maules are not Cessnas, Stinsons, or Pipers and as in the other brands has their own quirks. Those of us who fly them tend to like them. Tough, simple airplane.

TD

DocFry wrote:Tick,
I've been shopping too and have really become enamored of the Maule line. Then my pal an AA captain and a veteran 180 driver came down pretty hard on me. Says there's a reason for the lower prices, including build quality. Next choice? a 180 HP 1980 C-172. One thing that steers me away from the Maule is insurance. For a MXT-180 they bump the qualifications up several notches. For a taildragger they want 10 hours dual and another ten in type solo. For anything over 200 HP it gets even crazier.
Still, some of those Maules seem to have great capability.

I'd say the build quality is a non-issue. Sure, it's made in a different way with different fasteners...but that means nothing about the durability or maintenance of the airplane. To me, the Maule is as close to a "go-anywhere" 4-place right off the bat certified airplane as you can get short of spending A LOT more money. Every Maule ever built, i'd say it's ready to go to the back country day one. Can't say that of other types out there (not including 2-place stuff like cubs/husky's/etc). I'm a 180/185 guy, but have flown a few Maules and have a family member that's owned one for 20 plus years. The "maintainability" is a big deal...not as big as some make it out to be but it's there. Parts are easy to get and relatively inexpensive...but to the guy that says "i can get an aileron cheaper"....my response is that ailerons aren't wear items and what are you doing to fuck up an aileron?

They fly sweet and what I've seen they have no bad manners in the air or on the ground. The idea that Maules have some "tricky" landing characteristics is bunk. It's not high time TW pilots wadding up Maules in ground loops. It's guys with low experience making poor decisions.

My take on the insurance deal is this; it's driven by demographic and accident rates. Due to the reasonable price of entry, many people have a Maule as not only their first airplane, but also their first backcountry plane. Not uncommon to see a guy with a Maule start off with little or no TW time. I know of a couple that got the "$4000" insurance shock...but i'm not sure if that's realistic any more. Even if it is....it's one year. The next year you'll have more TW time and time in type and it will drop dramatically. If you went out and bought a high hull value TW plane of any type with no experience you'd probably see similar. Just a non-issue to me cause it's temporary.

I'd focus on the plane. The side door, the low cost of entry, the engine options, and the performance of a Maule is pretty compelling.

59SC

fiftynineSC wrote:Parts are easy to get and relatively inexpensive...but to the guy that says "i can get an aileron cheaper"....my response is that ailerons aren't wear items and what are you doing to fuck up an aileron?

I got bit for an aileron and was *really* happy that it was $800 instead of $6000.