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Re: Mountain Flying Training

mike b wrote:
Get Sparky Imeson's Mountain Flying Bible. Mike


Definitely a good book, but much better after some training as a reminder/reinforcement. I'm still very much a student of flying in mountains and some stuff I read but didn't understand until I had actually flown it.

Same with Jim's book. I understand what is written, but I really want him to sit beside me and walk me through it in three dimensions.
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Re: Mountain Flying Training

mike b wrote:
Get Sparky Imeson's Mountain Flying Bible. Mike


Definitely a good book, but much better after some training as a reminder/reinforcement. I'm still very much a student of flying in mountains and some stuff I read but didn't understand until I had actually flown it.

Same with Jim's book. I understand what is written, but I really want him to sit beside me and walk me through it in three dimensions.
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Re: Mountain Flying Training

CPA? Cessna Pilots Assoc.?
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neoflyer wrote:CPA? Cessna Pilots Assoc.?


Colorado Pilot's Association.

Cary wrote:If you were to take both the CPA seminar and do the optional flying with one of CPA's mountain instructors, you'd get some superb training in both high elevation flying and back country flying. These folks do know what they're doing. My regular CFII who does my IPCs and BFRs is one of them, and I know personally several others of them. The last I heard, there will be 2 sessions again in 2017, as there were in 2016, in June and in August.

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Yes, but... If what you want is a bunch of instruction on how to land on challenging backcountry strips, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in Colorado that provides it. One of the few downsides to living here is that we have an incredible lack of such strips, so while you'll learn a great deal about high mountain flying in the CPA (or similar) course, you won't be cranking out dirt-strip-on-a-hill landings. You will come away with a usable understanding about mountain weather, density altitude, landing at true high country airports, crossing passes, and a dozen other crucial things though.

Now that said, we always have a plane or two painted across the rocks every year because someone simply fails to appreciate how much you need to respect mountain aviation at these elevations. No matter your goals, if you haven't done it yet I highly recommend one of these proper high mountain courses, which is a good bit different than asking a CFI to take you up for a flight in the hills. This is just one of those areas where book knowledge only gets you so far, and experience is worth every penny, so ask questions up front if it isn't part of a formally sanctioned course. I've flown with CFI's who have no business teaching mountains, and you'd never know until you prodded a bit.

The CPA courses are highly regarded, and you should definitely do the flying portion, as the mountain CFI's are pre-vetted and you'll learn how to be a better pilot by the end of the day. I just suggest looking to other places if what you're actually after is a class on operating in remote mountain strips. The learntolandshort stuff is very interesting indeed, and one I will likely sign up for once my wings aren't rented. I'd also utilize a local instructor if I wanted to fly into Idaho strips or the like, just to gain that tribal knowledge.
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CPA's Mountain flight training

The original post was a while ago, but I thought I'd mention that I'm signed up for CPA's June 24-25 session in Broomfield, CO. Perhaps someone else on the forum is going?
Tentatively scheduled to link up with Perry Brown a few days after that.
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Re: Mountain Flying Training

contactflying wrote:Does Aktahoe have his CFI yet? Does MTV still instruct?


I'm no MTV or Romano but I am a fresh CFI and have flown in the mts my entire life.

Here in the Sierra's with superb backcountry flying. Would love to help those seeking Mnt instruction.

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Congrats on the CFI AKT. Welcome to the club! You're going to love teaching and I'm sure you have a lot of knowledge to impart to your students, especially regarding mountain flying.
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Re: Mountain Flying Training

aktahoe1 wrote:
contactflying wrote:Does Aktahoe have his CFI yet? Does MTV still instruct?


I'm no MTV or Romano but I am a fresh CFI and have flown in the mts my entire life.

Here in the Sierra's with superb backcountry flying. Would love to help those seeking Mnt instruction.

AKT


Congrats on the CFI, AT! Just remember, your primary job is to keep your students from trying to kill you! :)

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Re: Mountain Flying Training

New Mexico Pilot's Association does a Mountain Flying Clinic each year that has been pretty well received. Attached is a copy of an article by Jeff Skiles who took the course several years ago and wrote about the experience. Clinic is held annually in the fall. This year it will be 9/23 thru 9/25.

http://www.nmpilots.org/documents/Mountain_Flying/Article-MtnFlyingClinic-JeffSkiles.pdf
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And please keep in mind that some strips are best done ONLY IF introduced to by a "relatively" local pilot, who has been there: Lots of strips have unique approaches, or different skill level required approach or, variable pattern altitudes, or Wx or Temp., or Season, or Smoke Or...

This could go on, ad infinitum:

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