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New Skin

I've been researching various fabric aircraft for a friend of mine; Cubs, Citabrias, Husky's etc and in a couple of the posting I'm seeing a claim of "lifetime" fabric. I recognize there are some great products out there for new skin on a airframe but is lifetime truly a valid claim or creative marketing.
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Re: New Skin

The "plain jane" factory Ceconite fabric on the 1965 Champion 7ECA (early Citabria) I used to own was still passing inspections in 2019. That plane was always hangared when not actually flying. The new owner is probably recovering it this year, for aesthetic reasons.

So that "factory" fabric lasted a little over 54 years. But I would not call this a "typical" experience... Not too many Ceconite covered planes make it that long, because they usually wind up parked outside at some point, and the UV rays damage the paint/fabric much more quickly outdoors.

"Lifetime" fabric? Well, I guess to some people, 54 years would be a "lifetime"... But I suspect about 30 years or less is more "typical".
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Re: New Skin

Did you ever need to have it rejuvenated in those years ?
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Re: New Skin

I'm going to cover my Champ with Oratex this winter, I'll check back with you in 50 years or so.... :D
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Re: New Skin

Most gets changed for cosmetic reasons. I flew a 64 Callair in the late 90s that had original linen fabric. It had been parked outside many years and you could put your finger through the cloth anywhere there was no paint. Steel tubing is structural, but the fabric only directed airflow. Owner/operator said he didn't change fabric until they crashed.
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Re: New Skin

Lifetime would refer to lifetime of the aircraft. After 30 years most need a major rebuild, even hangared aircraft will have issues with tube corrosion. Ya we all know 40 year old fabric that still flys but in general 30 years is a good life. Most recover jobs will cost at least 30 Grand by the time all issues are fixed and improvements made, because you are going to want the bigger baggage door while you are doing it. I have seen several that have gone from a simple 15 grand recover to a 70 grand MOREBETTERDISEASE money pit. If it is a new pilot or one learning tailwheel I recommend to patch as much as possible and leave until need for recover is noticed due the badly bent wing or missing gear. Two planes with low time pilots that park in front of my hanger came back under helicopter this summer, lucky for them they did not spend a lot pretty paint/fabric early on. :oops:
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Re: New Skin

Yes, the term “lifetime” is relative. That said, an airplane regularly hangared and cared for might easily wear the same cover for forty years or more.

About the only thing that destroys fabric is UV and wreckage. Modern fabric systems use a “primer type” coating that blocks UV. Don’t skimp on that stuff and take care of it and there’s no reason it can’t last that long.

And yes, carefully inspecting the tubing is tough with fabric in place, but proper corrosion proofing during rebuild and good care of the plane will go a long ways toward a long life span of the frame as well.

On the other hand, as Denny pointed out, treat the plane like it’s junk, assume you know all there is to flying, and ANY airplane is going to have a short “lifetime”.

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