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I have to pay a "Luxury Tax" for owning an airplane in San Diego County. Its .01% of the planes value. You can have this taxed waived if you have an older aircraft ( at least 50 years old I think) and you put it on public display once a month for two hours at various county airports.
Sunday I was putting away my Pacer when I notice a guy I had met once was pulling his 1969 Citabria to the east ramp for display.
We got to talking airplanes and He was kind enough to take me around and show me some cool planes .
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Some of these were out on the tarmac , some in hangers

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That Luscombe look cool and the gapping "stretcher" door on the 180 is unique and a rare feature
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Cool stuff, thanks!

I cant believe people are tying their airplanes down with chains, bad bad bad! [-X
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I cant believe people are tying their airplanes down with chains, bad bad bad! [-X



Why ?
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I cant believe people are tying their airplanes down with chains, bad bad bad! [-X



Why ?
No give at all when the plane rocks in the wind. Chains are probably the worst thing to tie down with.
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I cant believe people are tying their airplanes down with chains, bad bad bad! [-X



Why ?



When the wing lifts in the wind and at the end of the slack in the system there is a sharp jolt due to no give in the chain. This jolt/impact will cause damage and cracking at the wing and strut attach junction. It has been the cause of fatal accidents, one of which I personally witnessed as a teen ager, the strut attach bracket failed and the wing peeled back. That left a definite impression on me. I have mentioned this in the past on this site. NEVER tie down with chains!

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Apology to the OP, I did not mean to hijack a great thread, I am very passionate about this issue. Now, back to the cool old airplanes!
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Not saying it isn't smart to carry goldline, but many western airports have a cable (with chains or rope.) Use your rope or their chain or rope, but use either to synch the cable up a bit. Guarantees no jumping.
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contactflying wrote:Not saying it isn't smart to carry goldline, but many western airports have a cable (with chains or rope.) Use your rope or their chain or rope, but use either to synch the cable up a bit. Guarantees no jumping.


NEVER use chains, take your own ropes with you and use them, NEVER chains.
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Chains are for securing BIG heavy steel shite, not fragile aluminum airplanes.
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Nice old airplanes. Is that a PA-16 Clipper, the last Shortwing with sticks? How about those near-full-span ailerons! Must have decent roll control, eh?
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onthegas1 wrote:Nice old airplanes. Is that a PA-16 Clipper, the last Shortwing with sticks? How about those near-full-span ailerons! Must have decent roll control, eh?


I’ve flown my buddy’s clipper for 10 hours (to help my insurance). Roll authority is very nice!
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The Luscombe is pretty darn cool if you ask me.

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I like to see an interior picture of the Luscombe; it looks cavernous from the outside, maybe even more spacious than a Sedan :wink:
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sierrasplitter wrote:Image


This airplane gets around.
Here's a snapshot of it at the Orcas Island fly-in in Washington last summer.

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Years ago a guy I knew owned a 180 that looked just like this one.
He told me that there were 3 of them-- all painted alike, all with an "AA" tail number,
and all with the stretcher door mod, originally owned by a flying service in the Portland area.
Dunno if this is Paul's old airplane or one of it's siblings.
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hotrod180 wrote:
sierrasplitter wrote:Image

This airplane gets around.


Methinks that is an Alcor Cargomore door, depending on when installed (STC SA238SW, issued ~1964 to Alcor, reissued to R.A.Ashley of TX in 1987).
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sierrasplitter wrote:Its .01% of the planes value.


Wow, it’s gone down quite a bit.

I paid 1.1% of the assessed value of the aircraft in tax every year when I lived in San Diego (prior to 2012).

Maybe the 0.01% is a typo? [emoji2371]
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That door is very cool.
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I might get shot down for this... That cargo door could actually make a 180 a useful plane... :)
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onefitty wrote:I might get shot down for this... That cargo door could actually make a 180 a useful plane... :)


If only they would put a door like that on a 150 :)
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Still wouldn't make it useful.. :)
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