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Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

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Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

I want to take my bird to the next level of coolness for landing/camping at some grass
Strips. Useful load and airspeed are
Still a concern and I don't need to land on rock bars.

Looking for suggestions on what to get, where to get it and how much I should do myself vs. hire out.

I'm thinking a 6 or 7 on the nose and 7 or 8s on the mains? 8.50s all around seems overkill and too much weight. If I were to put 8.50 on nose might as well go ABWs on mains. Suggestions?

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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

If you are in a "Mod" mode...

For STCs use the below URL, Then click "Make" and your 182 model:

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgSTC.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet

A lot of "Approved Data" an owner may like. My Scout had a ton of STCs that were completely unknown to most owners, even the factory, until we researched.

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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

Love your 182, glad you decided to keep it.

You sound like what I was looking for when I upgraded. I went to 6:00x6 on the nose and 8:00x6 on the mains and couldn't be happier, for my type of flying. I also am not landing on gravel bars or boulder fields. Went from the stock setup with older wheel pants to my current setup and seemed to only lose about 5-6knots in cruise. Not bad IMO. Pretty significant improvement especially on the nose from going from the 5:00x5. Sure, not as big of a gain as going 8:00 or 8:50's, but I'm happy with the improvement and minimal speed loss.

Mine with my current tire set-up.

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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

Glad to see you aren't selling the 182 after all. I'd go with 8.50s all around. 8.50x6 on the nose and 8.50x10 on the mains. My buddies just got a 182 with 8.50x6 all around, PPONK, Canards and a Horton. Thing hauls a$$. But 8.50x10 would give more clearance for the nose wheel when landing in the rough stuff.
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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

8.50x10's on the mains with double puck brakes. Air glass nose fork. If you ever decide to, you can throw 29" buffed air Hawks on it.
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And don't forget to paint everything satin black! Gear legs, nose fork, buy the black calipers. :D
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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

My 182A is currently on 8.00 6's on the mains and a 7.00 6 on the nose with an airglass fork. It's a pretty good compromise with fair size tires and not too huge a speed loss. The previous owner had her on 8.50's all around and didn't like the stance (challenging to keep the nose high enough on flare from what he told me) I am cruising @ around 135-140 mph so not too bad. The 182's with the 8.50 10's on the mains look appealing to me, but I am not going to change in the near future. I do have double puck clevelands and it has fantastic brakes.Image
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IMO....8.50's on the mains and an 8.00 on the nose is a "99% of the places" kind of set up. Looks cool too.
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Sweet airplane. Tall gear, manual flaps, adjustable horizontal, Horton STOL, big cowl doors. You own one of the best bush trikes for sure. A keeper. Id start my research with the nose fork. 206 heavy duty or Landis Airglass. I think 7.00x6 is 206 heavy duty size. Figure out the complete installed cost, including buying a used nose strut, or reusing yours and having the fork pressed on to strut. That is where you are gonna spend some money. 8.50's on the mains will probably require new offset brake discs and torque plates for brakes (so the brake calipers don't rub on tires) and you will need to buy another 6" wheel for the nose. If you can use one of your existing main wheels as a nose wheel, it might be time to buy a complete new set of wheels and brakes for the mains with the proper offset discs and torque plates. Always run one size smaller nose tire so you will less inclined to do your wheelbarrow impression. If you are considering an 8.50 up front, find an F350, cut the power steering belt, and drive it around for awhile. If you like that, you will love an 8.50 up front. Bushwheels are the best insurance policy for landing in the bush, or off strip. 8.50's and an 8.00 is great for anything even remotely considered an airstrip. The reality is, the Idaho strips are so well maintained, your plane as it sits will take you to any strip in Idaho, but bigger tires will make you look cooler doing' it.. There is a Mooney driver around here that can attest to that. For 8.50's and an 8.00 be prepared to spend $5k. I've run 29" Bushwheels on a 182, and it does in fact look very cool, but found that 8.50 x 8.00 was a very practical setup. If you have any desire at all to some day run Bushwheels, you gotta have the Landis fork.
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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

I also researched this thoroughly before pulling the trigger on tires for my 1956 182.
My final decision was 8.50 mains & 8.00 nose. This was perfect for my mission profile.
Here's the prices I paid back in 2011
The "package" from Hitchcock Aviation. $3890
(1) Landis fork kit
(2) 8.50 goodyear tires & tubes
(1) 8.00 goodyear tire & tube
(1) 6" wheel including bearings, races, seals.
Fed X 2 day shipping

Spacers came from Alaskan Bushwheel. $91

I spend 90% of my flying "off asphalt" and this takes me where I want to go.
Good luck, Sam
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SkylaneSam wrote:I also researched this thoroughly before pulling the trigger on tires for my 1956 182.
My final decision was 8.50 mains & 8.00 nose. This was perfect for my mission profile.
Here's the prices I paid back in 2011
The "package" from Hitchcock Aviation. $3890
(1) Landis fork kit
(2) 8.50 goodyear tires & tubes
(1) 8.00 goodyear tire & tube
(1) 6" wheel including bearings, races, seals.
Fed X 2 day shipping

Spacers came from Alaskan Bushwheel. $91

I spend 90% of my flying "off asphalt" and this takes me where I want to go.
Good luck, Sam


Do you have any photos and recall how
Much you needed to cut off the nose gear?
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I have 8.50x6 all the way around. Want to move up to 8.50x10s on the mains.


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I have 8.50x6 all the way around. Want to move up to 8.50x10s on the mains.


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I have lots of photos & blue print. I must admit it takes me a long, VERY long time to upload photos.
Cathy & I just flew in from 5 days in the back country. She hopped on the lawn mower and I hopped on the tractor. Right about dark I blew out the PTO yoke & u joint cutting the fields. She blew out the entire R blade hub on the lawn mower. #-o :x Crud.....I still could order parts and have both machines fixed faster than I could get the photos I took of the "big tire process" up loaded for you. I'll try to get some up but it wont be tonight. Its been a long day.
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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

For the last three years I ran 8.00s on my mains and a 6.00 on the nose on my 205 using a 310 fork. It was a good set up with no STC to buy. Just a logbook entry. If your sure you don't want to go bigger, then that might be a good option that will cost you thousands less. I just went to the Landes fork. If you look around for some lightly used tires and a used wheel, you can save a nice chunk of change, but it's still going to run you $4-5K. Good luck!


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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

I just put the 8.50 x 6's on the mains and the 8.00x6 on the nose with the airglas nosefork and I love it for my home strip. Theres a few rocks and bumps on it so the factory setup was a big to small. I just ordered the VG's for it as well. Getting my fishin rig done up nicely a little at a time! :D


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I installed three 8.50x6 Goodyear tires with an Airglas Front fork on my 150J, best thing I ever did. :D

Granted its not a 182, but I would expect you to be very happy with this setup.
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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

Monstermuley wrote:I just put the 8.50 x 6's on the mains and the 8.00x6 on the nose with the airglas nosefork and I love it for my home strip. Theres a few rocks and bumps on it so the factory setup was a big to small. I just ordered the VG's for it as well. Getting my fishin rig done up nicely a little at a time! :D


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A1Skinner wrote:
Monstermuley wrote:I just put the 8.50 x 6's on the mains and the 8.00x6 on the nose with the airglas nosefork and I love it for my home strip. Theres a few rocks and bumps on it so the factory setup was a big to small. I just ordered the VG's for it as well. Getting my fishin rig done up nicely a little at a time! :D


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There's a couple of us going fishing on June 9th. You should join us!




Where are you guys headed. I get off work on the 1st and was planning on heading up north to uranium city around the 4th or 5th for a few days. Then home for the weekend and then back up to walleston lake for a week. But my plans are always open for change. :-D
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You spelled FISH wrong on the Cessna! :lol:

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